Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

**Janszoon** · 11-29-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

You and your silly generalizations. Of course not! His singing is also extremely difficult to replicate.

But in all seriousness, this is one songwriter that definitely earned whatever immortality he'll achieve well before he committed suicide. I understand the notion he might be considered an indie darling because of it that seems pretty absurd (and it is to me as well), but the guy had serious chops in all aspects of songwriting.

That doesn't mean I idolize him as a person, but it's hard not to see the breadth of sincerity in his work.

Eh. I think he lacked chops in the "songwriting that doesn't bore the crap out of me" department.

Salami · 11-29-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Eh. I think he lacked chops in the "songwriting that doesn't bore the crap out of me" department.

I wish I could have said that when Coldplay were being discussed.

s_k · 11-29-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tumor

Why did you buy it if you don't like it?

Because I keep having this feeling I'm missing something. Because some of his songs have got some really ingenious musical inventions. And, truth be told, because the shop owner told me I am missing out on something here. 6 bucks, worth the bet. If I keep missing the point of Elliot Smith, I will just play Waltz #2

Queen Boo · 11-29-2011, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Eh. I think he lacked chops in the "songwriting that doesn't bore the crap out of me" department.

You have no soul.

~~Farfisa~~ · 11-29-2011, 09:51 PM

I can see why everyone likes Elliott Smith, but I can't can't into any of his stuff. I think it's mainly his voice, something about it bugs me. Well, I'm not going to force myself to enjoy something. *expects massive ****storm*

lucifer_sam · 11-29-2011, 10:56 PM

I wouldn't expect everyone to like him.

The only times I get upset are when people say completely prejudicial and insidious things about him as a person. I remember talking to my philosophy teacher about his work (we were doing a section on Kierkegaard), and when I was trying to explain what kind of music he played, some pretentious cunt interrupted our conversation and said "he's the original emo kid."

Salami · 11-30-2011, 02:59 AM

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some pretentious cunt interrupted our conversation and said "he's the original emo kid."

Also a pretty dumb and prejudiced one. I know some of his stuff is whiney and annoying, but never emo.

MoonlitSunshine · 11-30-2011, 06:36 AM

I quite like From a Basement on the hill and Figure 8, but I can understand entirely why he wouldn't be everyone's thing - I definitely find him too whiny and a little repetitive at times, which is why I stick to the two albums :P

Overrated? Potentially. I'd say he's overrated in the same way that The Arcade Fire are overrated - both have their hardcore group of undying fans who believe them to be the greatest thing since the thing that sliced bread was the greatest thing since, but that doesn't mean that they aren't deserving of most of the praise they get. That is to say: probably overrated, yes, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't a notable musician.

**Janszoon** · 11-30-2011, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tumor

You have no soul.

That's true. Souls don't exist.

Howard the Duck · 11-30-2011, 07:35 AM

i think ES's alright

can't be any worse than Guided By Voices, Magnetic Fields or the what-have-yous

my ears are slightly more intuned to "indie" these days

11-29-2011, 10:56 PM	#696 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	I wouldn't expect everyone to like him. The only times I get upset are when people say completely prejudicial and insidious things about him as a person. I remember talking to my philosophy teacher about his work (we were doing a section on Kierkegaard), and when I was trying to explain what kind of music he played, some pretentious cunt interrupted our conversation and said "he's the original emo kid." __________________ first.am

11-30-2011, 06:36 AM	#698 (permalink)
MoonlitSunshine Dat's Der Bunny! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,088	I quite like From a Basement on the hill and Figure 8, but I can understand entirely why he wouldn't be everyone's thing - I definitely find him too whiny and a little repetitive at times, which is why I stick to the two albums :P Overrated? Potentially. I'd say he's overrated in the same way that The Arcade Fire are overrated - both have their hardcore group of undying fans who believe them to be the greatest thing since the thing that sliced bread was the greatest thing since, but that doesn't mean that they aren't deserving of most of the praise they get. That is to say: probably overrated, yes, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't a notable musician. __________________ "I found it eventually, at the bottom of a locker in a disused laboratory, with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard". Ever thought of going into Advertising?" - Arthur Dent

11-29-2011, 09:51 PM	#695 (permalink)
~~Farfisa~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,773	I can see why everyone likes Elliott Smith, but I can't can't into any of his stuff. I think it's mainly his voice, something about it bugs me. Well, I'm not going to force myself to enjoy something. expects massive **storm