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Old 12-27-2010, 10:39 PM   #361 (permalink)
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You just said he is musically overrated and now you call him a brilliant musician ;D.
I'm losing you man .
But he is a brilliant musician indeed.
Even brilliant musicians can be overrated, because I don't think he's that brilliant.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:32 AM   #362 (permalink)
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Haha, I get you .
Allright.

To get this back ontopic I'm thinking really hard of an artist I think is overrated.

Hm... I never got the idea of Stevie Wonder. Or Frank Sinatra. That's a good one. Frank Sinatra is heavily overrated to me.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:51 AM   #363 (permalink)
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Haha, I get you .
Allright.

To get this back ontopic I'm thinking really hard of an artist I think is overrated.

Hm... I never got the idea of Stevie Wonder. Or Frank Sinatra. That's a good one. Frank Sinatra is heavily overrated to me.
I think Stevie Wonder is brilliant or at least was at one time. But, yeah, I agree about Frankie boy.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:55 AM   #364 (permalink)
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I think some people aren't understanding the difference between underrated and not well known or played enough.
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:59 AM   #365 (permalink)
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Haha...that sounds like underrated to me. Usually artists don't get the recognition they deserve because they aren't played enough and not many people know about them.

Are you saying underrated should be most people think they are crap but they actually aren't? Because if that were the case most bands/artists people like here would be in this thread...the mainstream people don't "get" the awesome music we listen to.
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:33 PM   #366 (permalink)
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Yeah thats true for the most part.
I guess what I was trying to say was in my opinion an underrated band/artists isn't just someone who isn't played enough, it can also be someone who made a big impact on music or influenced music and doesn't get recognized enough for it.
What I'm describing is probably underrated, I just thought the point should be made.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:06 PM   #367 (permalink)
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Yeah thats true for the most part.
I guess what I was trying to say was in my opinion an underrated band/artists isn't just someone who isn't played enough, it can also be someone who made a big impact on music or influenced music and doesn't get recognized enough for it.
What I'm describing is probably underrated, I just thought the point should be made.
Agree, although I'd put it this way: The overrated/underrated issue can be summarized in that said band/artist are recognized and thereby judged for the wrong reasons.

Underrated = When a certain part of, or the whole, output and/or artistry is bypassed by the public in general and/or the general fanbase and instead gets a hard time based on overexposure of a certain other part of the output, alternatively not being recognized at all.

Overrated = When a certain part of, or the whole, output and/ord artistry is lauded by the public in general and/or the general fanbase, albeit unproportionally to the actual artistic value and/or musical significance of the output.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:08 PM   #368 (permalink)
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Old 12-28-2010, 06:09 PM   #369 (permalink)
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Haha, I get you .
Allright.

To get this back ontopic I'm thinking really hard of an artist I think is overrated.

Hm... I never got the idea of Stevie Wonder. Or Frank Sinatra. That's a good one. Frank Sinatra is heavily overrated to me.

Stevie from the start until 1979-80 was among the most innovative musicians in Soul and Pop, and then after Hotter Than July, in my opinion he was creating far more commercial work. Talking Book, Innervisions, Songs In the Key of Life, and any compilation that focuses on his 60's work are all worth checking out. For all of the great albums and singles he created, I can overlook songs like "I Just Called to Say I Love You," which I had to survive in my last year of High School.

As for the Chairman of the Board, he had a style that was perfect for the time he arrived, and his performance in Man With the Golden Arm is great. Songs for Only the Lonely is one of his finest albums, and Reprise Records was originally an outlet for his own work that turned into one of the greatest labels in the Rock era once it was sold to Warner Brothers in '63. To me, he had a style that is very influential, although of course also over-copied and refried to the point of being seen as over rated. Not everything connected to him is something I care to listen or agree with, but to me he's still a good influence with the early recordings and film roles.
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Shinichi Osawa. Seriously underrated.
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