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Old 09-13-2012, 08:59 PM   #1681 (permalink)
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my fave Monkees is the Head soundtrack, really

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Old 09-20-2012, 12:36 AM   #1682 (permalink)
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There was a meeting that Nesmith punched a hole in the (I think) wall of a Holiday Inn room where they were having a meeting and shouted "That could have been your face!" (some claim to even add an MF to that outburst) to Kirshner. Obviously, The Man With the Golden Ear was turning more into a bully with the massive recording succes of the Monkees and the liner notes on More of the Monkees which Kirshner thanked his team before even mentioning The Monkees were as they say The Straw that Broke the Camel's Back. Kirshner was dropped from the show.

It must be remembered that the show's creators were the ones who later developed the counterculture hit film Easy Rider, and that Raybert allowed quite a bit of ad libbing and interview segments where they were allowed to be natural. This went into their music and the interesting Second Season of the series.
Who ealse besided Bob Rafelson worked both on the Monkees television show and Easy Rider? Bob Rafelson and Jack Nicholson both worked on Head and Easy Rider, They considered the Monkee film as a stepping stone to get thier own pet project into the making. (When the Monkees found out about this they were furious and yelled at Bob and Jack "I'm not your steppin' stone!")

Nesmith only punched the hole in the wall after he was threaten by someone for breach of contract. Other legalese the song The Weight on the album version is performed by Smith while in the movie it's by The Band, their version didn't appear on the soundtrack because of contractual reasons.

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Old 09-20-2012, 02:46 PM   #1683 (permalink)
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Who ealse besided Bob Rafelson worked both on the Monkees television show and Easy Rider?
Bert Schneider.

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Nesmith was angry and rebelling while being told that he under contract, but it can be said that the punch in the wall was kind of a "closing argument" to the meeting in a way. A lot of the dominos were falling with the release of More of the Monkees, and the meeting was heated in part with what happened with that album (the linked Wiki article tells "more" of the story). In the very end of the story, Kirshner did violate an agreement surrounding the release of "A Little Bit Me, a Little Bit You" with the quickly-withdrawn Canadian B-Side, an early version of "She Hangs Out" released without concent between the label and the show as the song sung by Davy was not in strict connection under contract with the activities of the program or the recording directly connected to it (it was recorded in NYC possibly with the other three not around from what I remember). That one small step brought a closer end to Kirshner's involvement with the series, possibly the final domino to fall.

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Old 10-02-2012, 10:48 AM   #1684 (permalink)
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:37 PM   #1685 (permalink)
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How can say that about bruce springsteen. To me, he is a genius.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:01 PM   #1686 (permalink)
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Boring, cheesy, mediocre folk poetic lyrics and dull songs about struggles in life. Yep.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:04 PM   #1687 (permalink)
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:55 PM   #1688 (permalink)
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I agree. Anything after BSSM is overrated. BSSM is a little overrated too.
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:27 PM   #1689 (permalink)
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I agree. Anything after BSSM is overrated. BSSM is a little overrated too.
I definitely don't agree.

RHCP in general are overrated, but they did have a few moments of brilliance. The Uplift Mofo Party Plan, BSSM, and By the Way are all classics in my opinion. They are also all completely different from each other, which says something about their creativity.
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I definitely don't agree.

RHCP in general are overrated, but they did have a few moments of brilliance. The Uplift Mofo Party Plan, BSSM, and By the Way are all classics in my opinion. They are also all completely different from each other, which says something about their creativity.
Also, Mother's Milk, the album right before BSSM was a fantastic album with a stellar cover of Stevie Wonder's Higher Ground, but yeah, As a whole they're pretty overrated.
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