Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

~~Soulflower~~ · 09-11-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger ?

Yeah being called an Icon, a guitar hero, saying you changed the music industry & being photographed with the likes of Page & Jagger.
Yeah he's just some nobody that nobody really rates.

But hey, she's under rated right?

Oh and while we're on the subject of platinum albums it depends where they're from.
In the US they're for 1 million sales, UK 300,000 sales, Germany 200,000 Australia 70,000 sales and so on and so on.

Incidental you only have to sell 4000 copies of an album to go platinum in Uruguay.

I said inducted in the RHOF but then you have artists like Madonna who get inducted before her which is a down right disgrace. Donna Summer is very underrated as far as her contributions. She has been boxed in her entire career as a Disco artist when she was much more than that and even expanded the genre into an art form.

I never said Jack was a nobody I said he was underrated..... talent wise by the music industry itself

~~Soulflower~~ · 09-11-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjinnx

How the heck could someone who's listed in Rolling Stones 100 greatest guitarists of all time be underrated?

Has he gotten any awards/tributes for being one of the greatest guitarist of all time by the industry?

I think its unfair to base that off of ONE magazine. Most people/teens etc dont even know who Jack White is.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-11-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

I never said Jack was a nobody I said he was underrated..... talent wise by the music industry itself

Yeah being called an
Icon,
a guitar hero,
saying you changed the music industry
&
being photographed with the likes of Page & Jagger.

Seriously do you have trouble reading or something?

**Janszoon** · 09-11-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

Has he gotten any awards/tributes for being one of the greatest guitarist of all time by the industry?

I think its unfair to base that off of ONE magazine. Most people/teens etc dont even know who Jack White is.

Teens aren't people?

~~Soulflower~~ · 09-11-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Yes. So what?

If she was massively popular and a mainstream artist as you were implying ALL her albums would have gone platinum thats the point.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Not sure where you're getting this whole "pop star" thing from since I've never used that term to describe her, but she is very popular as evidenced by the amount of albums she's sold.

You insisted that she was mainstream and mainstream artists are pop stars. Jill Scott is an R&B/Neo soul singer she isnt a POP star.

Shes not very popular and she sold the most albums during her debut which ironically was the height of the neo soul movement D Angelo, Erykah Badu, etc. which was why it did well because that genre was very popular during the period but that most certainly isnt a mainstream genre now.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Because it's kind of common knowledge. But since you don't like to look things up on your own, here's a link.

First Off, Grammys is full of politics and most of the Grammys are awarded off of popularity mostly.... Jill Scott had a great year on R&B stations last year and she didnt receive NOT one grammy nomination and her album even debut at number one.... She isnt a mainstream pop singer which is why she didnt get nominated in the R&B categories and which is why a singer such as Chris Brown won best R&B album although he is really a POP star. Thats how the Grammys operates currently.

~~Soulflower~~ · 09-11-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Teens aren't people?

lol They are.... I was trying to make a distinction between teens and adults but typed to fast.

~~Soulflower~~ · 09-11-2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger ?

Yeah being called an
Icon,
a guitar hero,
saying you changed the music industry
&
being photographed with the likes of Page & Jagger.

Seriously do you have trouble reading or something?

Who said that though? The magazine writers or the industry itself.....
Janelle Monae opened for Prince and performed with Stevie Wonder, Funkadelic, and they claim she is the James Brown of today in some magazines but the music industry doesnt rank her high......

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-11-2012, 05:43 PM

So basically to sum up an artist needs to win awards to show how respected they are in the industry,and things like critical acclaim, popular acclaim, the acclaim of your peers and continued success are meaningless.

Yet awards are full of politics and shouldn't be used as a measure of someone's acclaim.

OK glad that's sorted.

**Janszoon** · 09-11-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

If she was massively popular and a mainstream artist as you were implying ALL her albums would have gone platinum thats the point.

Why would you come to that conclusion?

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

You insisted that she was mainstream and mainstream artists are pop stars. Jill Scott is an R&B/Neo soul singer she isnt a POP star.

Shes not very popular and she sold the most albums during her debut which ironically was the height of the neo soul movement D Angelo, Erykah Badu, etc. which was why it did well because that genre was very popular during the period but that most certainly isnt a mainstream genre now.

You're right she's totally obscure, that's why no one in this thread has ever heard of her. Oh wait.

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

First Off, Grammys is full of politics and most of the Grammys are awarded off of popularity mostly.... Jill Scott had a great year on R&B stations last year and she didnt receive NOT one grammy nomination and her album even debut at number one.... She isnt a mainstream pop singer which is why she didnt get nominated in the R&B categories and which is why a singer such as Chris Brown won best R&B album although he is really a POP star. Thats how the Grammys operates currently.

If Grammies are "awarded off of popularity mostly" and Jill Scott has won three, doesn't that imply that she's pretty popular? If Jill Scott had an album debut at number one, doesn't that mean that she's, by definition, popular?

mr dave · 09-11-2012, 05:47 PM

WTF is this troll-feast thing?

Also where is this magical 'Music Industry Ranking' index, just curious.

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