Most Underrated/Overrated Artists

Rjinn · 09-11-2012, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AndrahilAdrian

I'm convinced they only pretend to because they think enjoying noises normal people think are unpleasant makes them special. If even one person saw metal as anything other than complete and total garbage, it would be overrated.

Or perhaps they enjoy listening to the genre for different artistic views than you instead of being a special unpleasant badass? They should demand the same respect towards their view that they do yours. But making a comment like that makes it hard and quite trolling as well. Funny that's what we were discussing before.

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Yes, metal is a vast genre ecompassing various testaments to human stupidity. If you like your stupidity served with a side of pretension, try prog metal or symphonic metal. If you like new age lunatic stupidity, check out pagan or folk metal. If you're into skinhead racist stupidity, take a look at teutonic metal. If you feel like the patented Vanilla Ice brand of stupidity, try rap metal. And if you want to out-stupid the stupids, listen to death metal. Do you know what all these myriad subgenres have in common? That's right, they're all totally stupid. Metal is fundamentally stupid. So I can dismiss any band that plays metal out of hand.

I find it quite stupefying and ignorant directing a musical preference and style only towards stupid people based on assumption when you actually have no clue what it means to them.

Trollheart · 09-11-2012, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AndrahilAdrian

Well mate, if you direct me to a metal song with a bona fide melody I'll duly listen to it. I doubt you will, since metal is diametrically opposed to melody, instead employing power chords, masturbatory solos, and general loudness to woo its suggestible audience. A metal song with melody probably wouldn't even qualify as metal. Even if it did, the melody would be lost beneath all that hideous distortion. Basically, metal is musical cancer, and if you like it, there's something wrong with you. Of course, metal fans likely take that as a compliment, since, as I said, they judge their music very differently from how normal people do; abrasion and general unlistenable-ness are signs that the music is "intense". A metal song with melody and tune would betray the fundamental tenents of metal.

This has to qualify for the prize for THE most uninformed, hostile and outright rude comment ever posted here. As it happens...

and these are only three that sprang to mind. Give me the time, and was I bothered to, I could fill a page with videos from various metal bands that all display distinct melody. Of course, you'll probably just ignore this, declaring that none of these songs have any melody, but then if so that just proves that your argument is empty and can't be supported.

Why in God's name would you even think of advancing a theory/opinion that having melody in a genre would betray its tenets (it's tenets, by the way, not tenents: that's a beer, but you need an extra "n"!), and anyway, what do you see AS those tenets??

You DO realise don't you that there are many sub-genres of metal that you're lumping together in a quite unforgivable, stereotypical, across-the-board way and dismissing out of hand? Not to mention blues, which is one of the basic fundamentals on which metal is based, and out of which it grew, as well as hard rock and various other genres and sub-genres?

Oh, and don't even get me started on prog rock!

Howard the Duck · 09-11-2012, 02:33 AM

i've given up feeding the troll

not just the blues, metal draws from shoegaze, psychedelia

masturbatory? - some use less finesse than punk, less chords and less notes

maybe i'm just a beer-drinking badass listening to unlistenable music

Rjinn · 09-11-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Please whatever you don't listen to Howard the Duck - don't **** off. You only made three post and somehow your my favorite poster.

Funny how you were defending the poster's right to have an "opinion". Yet you give praise when making the most inflammatory insulting post of them all.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-11-2012, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

He has done alot of work with other artists (solo) wise that goes unappreciated and he has done alot of other solo projects besides his latest work.

A few production credits & a couple of collaborations don't make a solo artist.

**Janszoon** · 09-11-2012, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

None of those artists have any grammys or any awards by the mass industry and currently they are very underrated.

Mint Condition has been in the industry for over 20 years now and they are an R&B band that writes and composes their own music they dont get any awards. D Angelo experienced some moderate commercial success in the mid 90s but currently he is not mainstream or wins alot of awards. He was one of the most influential artists of the 90s that started the neo soul movement. Sly Family Stone NEVER gets the credit they deserve from the mass industry. Yes, they are legends but they never get their due for what they have done likewise with Funkadelic but then their are bands like The Beatles that are way overrated in comparision. Krs One doesnt get NO credit and he is one of the greatest MCEE's of all time.

Jack White is one of the most talented artists that has came out of the last 15 years and he never gets any credit as a solo artist

An artist can have some moderate commercial success and still be underrated. None of these artists are what I would considered to be mainstream.... they all have not experienced any commercial success in YEARS.

Like I said, we apparently have very different definitions of "underrated". If someone is a legendary, defining artist of their genre and time period, they aren't underrated. If someone is a critically lauded "savior" of their genre, they aren't underrated. If someone is in the rock 'n roll hall of fame, they aren't underrated.

**Janszoon** · 09-11-2012, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AndrahilAdrian

Well mate, if you direct me to a metal song with a bona fide melody I'll duly listen to it. I doubt you will, since metal is diametrically opposed to melody, instead employing power chords, masturbatory solos, and general loudness to woo its suggestible audience. A metal song with melody probably wouldn't even qualify as metal. Even if it did, the melody would be lost beneath all that hideous distortion. Basically, metal is musical cancer, and if you like it, there's something wrong with you. Of course, metal fans likely take that as a compliment, since, as I said, they judge their music very differently from how normal people do; abrasion and general unlistenable-ness are signs that the music is "intense". A metal song with melody and tune would betray the fundamental tenents of metal.

Here's a metal song with a bona fide melody for you:

Howard the Duck · 09-11-2012, 07:27 AM

well, by the same token, if Sly Stone is underrated, then I guess Jimi Hendrix is underrated as well

never won any grammies in his lifetime, worked his ass off for 20 years and only got famous after death

nobody gave him the credit for his influence, they all gave it to Eddie Hazel

Holerbot6000 · 09-11-2012, 07:44 AM

Wow! The poop is really flying fast and thick in this thread. The Captain and Tennille underrated?!?! F*ck YOU!!!!

Hey forgive my chat room ignorance but what is a 'Troll', other than, seemingly, the ultimate dismissive?

bob. · 09-11-2012, 07:56 AM

The Captain and Tennille basically started Indie rock as we know it

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Holerbot6000 Music Mutant Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: near a record store Posts: 327	Wow! The poop is really flying fast and thick in this thread. The Captain and Tennille underrated?!?! F*ck YOU!!!! Hey forgive my chat room ignorance but what is a 'Troll', other than, seemingly, the ultimate dismissive?