sidewinder

Agreed.

I think these are rated just right. Smashing Pumpkins gets rightful praise for their great early stuff, and lots of ****-talking for their later mediocre/bad stuff. Modest Mouse I feel is rightly-rated for their first 4 albums and over-rated for their most recent, all-in-all it pretty much balances out. If they got any more praise I'd say they're overrated.

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Pink Floyd underrated?

Well, the period between Piper and DSOTM certainly is. Saucerful of Secrets and Obscured by Clouds especially. And I think Division Bell is way better than people say it is, yeah Gilmour isn't a very good lyricist, so what?

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David Gilmour rocked the **** on "A Momentary Lapse of Reason" and "Division Bell". I find it hard to believe people don't enjoy those albums. They are just pissy that Waters left...get over it.

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Duga, do you think that 'Triumph' is underrated?....anyone?

boo boo

Yeah. Both of those albums piss all over The Final Cut.

Man. From The Wall to The Final Cut, talk about a ridiculously huge plumet in quality. People who say The Wall is a Waters solo album are wrong, it isn't, Gilmour's presence is felt throughout. Gilmour is barely in The Final Cut, this album should have just been a bunch of angsty poems because that's really all it is, Waters stopped giving a damn about the musical aspect completely. I loved Waters vocals on Animals and The Wall but here he's so overbearingly mopey and I'm not even sure what the hell he's ranting about, and there's no Gilmour to provide any contrast, and not a single melody to be heard. It isn't terrible, but there's really no reason to listen to it, ever.

Well my feelings about Modest Mouse are well known. As for Yes, I think they are only underrated by people who underrate prog in general. Close to the Edge is the 68th highest rated album on Rate Your Music so they're not that underrated.

But you're totally right regarding Incubus, XTC and Gentle Giant.

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Yeah...it's his Daddy issues album. As if there weren't enough Daddy issues in the Wall.

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Well. The Wall had a compelling story, actual melodies, tons of great hooks and the rest of the band still contributed enough to make it sound like a Pink Floyd record. And like the best Floyd records the songs all merge together perfectly.

Also, while The Wall is somewhat autobiographal, it's also about Syd just as much as it's about Roger, and it's done in a way that the character of "Pink" could represent any troubled rock star, it has a more universial appeal because the themes of alienation is something anyone can relate with.

The Final Cut is just Roger ranting about his dead pop and politics and that's about the only substance it has.

Lyrically it's not a bad concept, it actually is an unofficial sequel to The Wall because the main character of the story is the schoolteacher from The Wall, who is a troubled war veteran.

But all the themes in The Final Cut, war, depression, capitalism. These were all tackled in previous albums and much more successfully. Basically Gilmour didn't want to make an album full of lame Wall leftovers, he wanted to compose new music but Waters just blew him off because HE was the lyrical genius. As true as that may be, what good are lyrics when there are no musical ideas to go along with it? And this really was the first album where he wouldn't let anyone else contribute anything, just a few guitar solos from Gilmour, which are unsurprisingly the highlights of the album.

Waters seemed to think he really was the band because he was the lyricist and the creator of the concepts behind each album. As if these were the only reasons the band was successful. Pink Floyd was at it's best when the actual musical ideas were being contributed by the entire band. That's not to say Waters isn't a good songwriter on his own, but he really dried up after The Wall.

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Those sparse Gilmour solos are the only reason I can even get through that album at all. "The Fletcher Memorial Home" is ok at best (still the best on the album, though...heh) but I actually don't mind it all once Gilmour kicks in. Every time I hear that song it's like watching a movie where you know what is going to happen but you hope it will be different this time. That solo should be 20 minutes long, but it is over waaayy too soon.

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