Most mainstream artists wouldn't be making music without their producers, they wouldn't know how.

wha?!?!
producers are not completely talentless. holy shit balls. haven't you heard of madlib, kanye west, j dilla, etc. all great producers. danger mouse, etc etc.

Steve Albini -case and point.

Is Kanye West really talented?

Doesn't seem like it to me...but I admit I dismiss most of the tracks he has a part in.

is kanye west talented? c'mon, now youre just letting bias cloud your judgement.

He doesn't have any in my opinion.
Not sayin' I'm right, just that I've never heard anything I would consider new, groundbreaking, catchy or even slightly talented by this guy.:D

You are aware that he is a producer first, right? Without using google, can you name me a single artist he produced?
I doubt it, which is why I can't take you seriously when you say you have heard nothing new or creative from him.

I'm just asking you to tell me why he is talented. I honestly don't know. I admit I don't like him as a musician and that may make me less aware of him, but I am not saying he is talented or not; just asking someone (you) who knows more about it then I do to inform me.

Why don't you give me an example of his amazing producing talent?
Which albums are you talking about?

He produced Jay Z's masterpiece The Blueprint
He produced Common's Be

he has produced for john legend, nas, eminem.

listen to Be and tell me that kanye doesn't have talent.