Covers = Illegal (lyrics, singer, cds, shows, quote)

boo boo · 08-02-2007, 11:26 AM

It makes perfect sense, actually.

MRV · 08-02-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

True , but then again I treated my buisness like the record industry do i'd probably be able to retire from spending 2 decades overcharging for CD's.
I'm not saying everything should be free , if a record company started up a subscription service where you could live stream any album by every artist on that label for a set fee a month I would happily subscribe to it. As it happens none of them have either the intellect or the foresight to do this so they'll just go on overcharging on I-Tunes , releasing rubbish & moaning about piracy until they go bankrupt.

"Releasing rubbish"... we can definitely agree on that. Corporations abandoning their music industry assets would put a wide smile on my face.

Believe it or not, I'm not sympathetic to the labels. As you said, they didn't have the foresight and still appear to not have the intellect to solve the problem by changing their business model. Their answer has been to sue and branch further into the music publishing arena.

There are folks working to arrive at a new model, like We7.com, but you're right, the labels just don't get it.

But... I AM sympathetic to songwriters... and they earn their living through sales and primarily "performance" royalties.

We'll have to agree to disagree on "overcharging" for CD's. Being an American I'm all about capitalism and what the market will bear.

Thanks for the discussion bro.

Inuzuka Skysword · 08-01-2007, 01:37 PM

All I have to say is:

"One of the wonders of the world is going down
It's going down I know
It's one of the blunders of the world that no-one cares
No-one cares enough"

- The Sound of Muzak by Porcupine Tree

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-01-2007, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

All I have to say is:

"One of the wonders of the world is going down
It's going down I know
It's one of the blunders of the world that no-one cares
No-one cares enough"

- The Sound of Muzak by Porcupine Tree

That'll be £5 please

Inuzuka Skysword · 08-01-2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

That'll be £5 please

nobody takes my money.

jackhammer · 08-01-2007, 04:25 PM

More bullsh[i]t from the money grabbing multi-nationals. In that case they had better put a representative in every live venue in the world. Considering 80% of bands start out as cover bands (this is an estimated guess, please don't trawl the net for actual statistics), we will probably end up with NO decent music EVER!

This politically correct towing the line malarkey is really fuking me off.

boo boo · 08-02-2007, 12:21 PM

Illegal filesharing is the greatest invention since shrinky dinks.

But now they have gone to pretty ridiculous lengths to milk up some extra cash. I wouldn't be surprised if what was once a joke on the Onion (illegalising radio) one day becomes a reality.

It really is dumb. Its like Urban said, schools copy books and no one gives a crap, people can buy copies of famous art works and no legal action is taken, people can tell a generic joke and not get sued by the person who came up with it.

Its all about the Benjamins as far as the big labels are concerned.

SEF · 08-03-2007, 11:31 PM

I'm sad now.

swim · 08-04-2007, 08:26 AM

Labels can be successful at selling cds for 5 bucks a piece. FACT!
Plan-It-X Records: Catalog

Most artists don't make most of their money from merch or shows or charging people for covers. Most musicians have irl jobs and make music because they want to and even lose money from it.

BandcaveMan · 08-07-2007, 06:53 PM

I was once in a band that wrote a song with one singer, he then left the band and performed that song in his new band. He had to pay for the use of the music when he performed it (he only wrote the lyrics). We then wrote new lyrics and used the new version live so that he wouldn't get a penny.. The new version was better anyway. Created music has an owner, listeners are just license holders.

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jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	More bullsh[i]t from the money grabbing multi-nationals. In that case they had better put a representative in every live venue in the world. Considering 80% of bands start out as cover bands (this is an estimated guess, please don't trawl the net for actual statistics), we will probably end up with NO decent music EVER! This politically correct towing the line malarkey is really fuking me off. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

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SEF Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 61	I'm sad now. __________________ i herd u liek music

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swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,145	Labels can be successful at selling cds for 5 bucks a piece. FACT! Plan-It-X Records: Catalog Most artists don't make most of their money from merch or shows or charging people for covers. Most musicians have irl jobs and make music because they want to and even lose money from it. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

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BandcaveMan Groupie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 16	I was once in a band that wrote a song with one singer, he then left the band and performed that song in his new band. He had to pay for the use of the music when he performed it (he only wrote the lyrics). We then wrote new lyrics and used the new version live so that he wouldn't get a penny.. The new version was better anyway. Created music has an owner, listeners are just license holders. __________________ BandcaveMan http://www.bandcave.com

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Inuzuka Skysword Existential Egoist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,468	All I have to say is: "One of the wonders of the world is going down It's going down I know It's one of the blunders of the world that no-one cares No-one cares enough" - The Sound of Muzak by Porcupine Tree