Top-50 All-time (Rough Draft) (lyrics, alternative, funk, metal, punk)

Son of JayJamJah · 07-27-2007, 08:40 AM

Re: Green Day

I don't understand why anyone would disrespect them. I can see not enjoying their music I myself am not a huge fan, Dookie was amazing, I enjoyed their most recent album with the exception of the title track and like 5-10 other songs from in between like minority and good riddance. But back to my point, they are one of the most succesful bands of the last 15 years and have adjusted theur style accordingly to stay mainstream while still staying original. I concede that they are not the most talented technical band, but they put on an incredible show that is chalked full of energy and passion and their fans are crazy for them. They have reached much higher levels of commercial success then most "punk rock" bands of the previous generation and all in their own generation and while people like to put them down (pardon the who pun) for not being true punk rockers I think thats absurd. They never labeled themselves that way so why hold it against them.

Just my 2-cents. I think they are one of the most important bands of this and the previous decade and I believe history will take my side once it is written.

joyboyo53 · 07-27-2007, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Larkrise

I get so pissed off when I see Green Day thrown in among some great punk rock bands. Green Day does not deserve the acknowledgment that people give them. What pisses me off the most is when people class them as punk rock. They should be labeled as crap rock.

he asked to rank those in order. i personally think green day sucks. the only reason i put them about the others is because a long time ago.... before they were 40, they had some good tunes. because i can put aside my personal opinion when i am ranking a list of artist i have to give them some credit to what they have accomplished (even though it doesn't appeal to me)

MHDTV · 07-27-2007, 04:17 PM

They're hardly musical musical geniuses, and they don't belong in the top 1000 for technical ability, so how do they make the top 50?

Larkrise · 07-27-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

he asked to rank those in order. i personally think green day sucks. the only reason i put them about the others is because a long time ago.... before they were 40, they had some good tunes. because i can put aside my personal opinion when i am ranking a list of artist i have to give them some credit to what they have accomplished (even though it doesn't appeal to me)

Sorry, I didn't realize that he was asking for us to rank them...I thought they were bands you listed on your own. My apologies to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayJamJah

Re: Green Day

I don't understand why anyone would disrespect them. I can see not enjoying their music I myself am not a huge fan, Dookie was amazing, I enjoyed their most recent album with the exception of the title track and like 5-10 other songs from in between like minority and good riddance. But back to my point, they are one of the most succesful bands of the last 15 years and have adjusted theur style accordingly to stay mainstream while still staying original. I concede that they are not the most talented technical band, but they put on an incredible show that is chalked full of energy and passion and their fans are crazy for them. They have reached much higher levels of commercial success then most "punk rock" bands of the previous generation and all in their own generation and while people like to put them down (pardon the who pun) for not being true punk rockers I think thats absurd. They never labeled themselves that way so why hold it against them.

Just my 2-cents. I think they are one of the most important bands of this and the previous decade and I believe history will take my side once it is written.

Still though, my thoughts on Green Day still stand. Maybe they never labeled themselves as punk rock, but this is what so many other people label them as and it's rediculous. They have no originality, their music in unnecessary, and personally I think they are phony. Who calls themself, "Tres Cool" anyway. Someone with a narcissistic complex. Also, it is also the people who get so "rah rah Green Day" that drives me to dislike them even more.

joyboyo53 · 07-27-2007, 05:55 PM

^

yikes, shes breaking out her pschology book!

i swear i could never be with a person who did that for a living. i have this strong belief that unless you desperately need clinincal help for problems, stay FAR away from them. i think they can really cause you to overexam something small and make it a problem. this is just my opinion. im add and i was perscribed ritalin/adderal as a child and at the tender age of 12/13 i decided to stop taking it because i didnt want to feel medicated... best decision ever. now that i know what it is, i think its ****ED UP how they prescribe basically a speed derivative (did i mention its addictive?) to children.... talk about something that is gonna mess you up after taking it for 10 years.

but i do understand there is good things that come out of your field, no hard feelings. wanna hug it out?

Larkrise · 07-27-2007, 06:02 PM

lol, well I won't be a doctor to prescribe medication. I will be a therapist. In Canada therapist, unless they have a phd in medicine cannot prescribe drugs. Besides, I believe in talking things out, not supressing it with drugs.

Yes I do tend to look beyond the surface with many people. But it is often a good thing...people are not always as they seem on the outside. That narcissism remark was a only a joke. I am sure "Tres Cool" probably has some other reason for calling himself this.

I'd love a hug jgd

Son of JayJamJah · 07-30-2007, 10:09 AM

Updated Top 50
I think it's starting to make some sense

1. Led Zeppelin
2. The Beatles
3. The Rolling Stones
4. Jimi Hendrix
5. The Who
6. Bob Dylan
7. Eric Clapton
8. Stevie Wonder
9. Van Morrison
10. Queen
11. Pearl Jam
12. Pink Floyd
13. The Allman Brothers Band
14. The Beach Boys
15. The Grateful Dead
16. Nirvana
17. Johnny Cash
18. Metallica
19. Green Day
20. Incubus
21. Creedence Clearwater Revival
22. David Bowie
23. Elvis Presley
24. Bob Marley
25. Janis Joplin
26. Chuck Berry
27. Elvis Costello
28. The Doors
29. CSNY
30. The Police
31. Velvet Underground
32. Rage Against the Machine
33. Black Sabbath
34. Aretha Franklin
35. Michael Jackson
36. Roy Orbison
37. B.B. King
38. Red Hot Chili Peppers
39. Rakim
40. The Clash
41. The Supremes
42. The Eagles
43. Marvin ***e
44. Genesis
45. Ray Charles
46. 311
47. Tupac
48. The Ramones
49. Yes
50. Sublime

joyboyo53 · 07-30-2007, 11:30 AM

7. Eric Clapton
8. Stevie Wonder
9. Van Morrison
10. Queen

you have got to be kidding me. should be more like

20-40 Eric Clapton
40-100 Stevie Wonder
25-50 Van Morrison
20-40 Queen

~~i get high sometimes~~ · 07-30-2007, 04:35 PM

the allman brothers band are all around greater than eric b and rakim? hahaha.
eric b and rakim inspired nearly the entire genre of alternative hip hop and are one of the key influences on almost every talented alternative hip hop artist today. the allman brothers band are opening for dave matthews...

Son of JayJamJah · 07-30-2007, 06:11 PM

@jgd85

Who would suggest to replace those four in the top 10. I am pretty sure I'll be keeping Clapton there as I feel you greatly under rate him as a 20-40 guy. Still I respect your opinion and would like to know who you would bump up and why.

@ Sometimes I get High

Duane Allman had a small influence on Rock Guitar Players and who are Eric B and Rakim opening for? Also which genre is more significant in music history. Today's Allmans are not the Idle wild South boys.

07-27-2007, 06:02 PM	#116 (permalink)
Larkrise Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 56	lol, well I won't be a doctor to prescribe medication. I will be a therapist. In Canada therapist, unless they have a phd in medicine cannot prescribe drugs. Besides, I believe in talking things out, not supressing it with drugs. Yes I do tend to look beyond the surface with many people. But it is often a good thing...people are not always as they seem on the outside. That narcissism remark was a only a joke. I am sure "Tres Cool" probably has some other reason for calling himself this. I'd love a hug jgd __________________ I am all woman!

07-30-2007, 10:09 AM	#117 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Updated Top 50 I think it's starting to make some sense 1. Led Zeppelin 2. The Beatles 3. The Rolling Stones 4. Jimi Hendrix 5. The Who 6. Bob Dylan 7. Eric Clapton 8. Stevie Wonder 9. Van Morrison 10. Queen 11. Pearl Jam 12. Pink Floyd 13. The Allman Brothers Band 14. The Beach Boys 15. The Grateful Dead 16. Nirvana 17. Johnny Cash 18. Metallica 19. Green Day 20. Incubus 21. Creedence Clearwater Revival 22. David Bowie 23. Elvis Presley 24. Bob Marley 25. Janis Joplin 26. Chuck Berry 27. Elvis Costello 28. The Doors 29. CSNY 30. The Police 31. Velvet Underground 32. Rage Against the Machine 33. Black Sabbath 34. Aretha Franklin 35. Michael Jackson 36. Roy Orbison 37. B.B. King 38. Red Hot Chili Peppers 39. Rakim 40. The Clash 41. The Supremes 42. The Eagles 43. Marvin **e 44. Genesis 45. Ray Charles 46. 311 47. Tupac 48. The Ramones 49. Yes 50. Sublime Last edited by Son of JayJamJah; 07-30-2007 at 06:12 PM.*

07-27-2007, 08:40 AM	#111 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Re: Green Day I don't understand why anyone would disrespect them. I can see not enjoying their music I myself am not a huge fan, Dookie was amazing, I enjoyed their most recent album with the exception of the title track and like 5-10 other songs from in between like minority and good riddance. But back to my point, they are one of the most succesful bands of the last 15 years and have adjusted theur style accordingly to stay mainstream while still staying original. I concede that they are not the most talented technical band, but they put on an incredible show that is chalked full of energy and passion and their fans are crazy for them. They have reached much higher levels of commercial success then most "punk rock" bands of the previous generation and all in their own generation and while people like to put them down (pardon the who pun) for not being true punk rockers I think thats absurd. They never labeled themselves that way so why hold it against them. Just my 2-cents. I think they are one of the most important bands of this and the previous decade and I believe history will take my side once it is written.

07-27-2007, 05:55 PM	#115 (permalink)
joyboyo53 down the rabbit hole Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: the mountain called monkey Posts: 764	^ yikes, shes breaking out her pschology book! i swear i could never be with a person who did that for a living. i have this strong belief that unless you desperately need clinincal help for problems, stay FAR away from them. i think they can really cause you to overexam something small and make it a problem. this is just my opinion. im add and i was perscribed ritalin/adderal as a child and at the tender age of 12/13 i decided to stop taking it because i didnt want to feel medicated... best decision ever. now that i know what it is, i think its ****ED UP how they prescribe basically a speed derivative (did i mention its addictive?) to children.... talk about something that is gonna mess you up after taking it for 10 years. but i do understand there is good things that come out of your field, no hard feelings. wanna hug it out?

07-30-2007, 11:30 AM	#118 (permalink)
joyboyo53 down the rabbit hole Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: the mountain called monkey Posts: 764	7. Eric Clapton 8. Stevie Wonder 9. Van Morrison 10. Queen you have got to be kidding me. should be more like 20-40 Eric Clapton 40-100 Stevie Wonder 25-50 Van Morrison 20-40 Queen

07-30-2007, 04:35 PM	#119 (permalink)
~~i get high sometimes~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 240	the allman brothers band are all around greater than eric b and rakim? hahaha. eric b and rakim inspired nearly the entire genre of alternative hip hop and are one of the key influences on almost every talented alternative hip hop artist today. the allman brothers band are opening for dave matthews...

07-30-2007, 06:11 PM	#120 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	@jgd85 Who would suggest to replace those four in the top 10. I am pretty sure I'll be keeping Clapton there as I feel you greatly under rate him as a 20-40 guy. Still I respect your opinion and would like to know who you would bump up and why. @ Sometimes I get High Duane Allman had a small influence on Rock Guitar Players and who are Eric B and Rakim opening for? Also which genre is more significant in music history. Today's Allmans are not the Idle wild South boys.