The band they were in before that, Tribune, they were younger than that in it. It isn't as good but still amazing considering the age.

^--- wants to be "that guy"

whos that guy? i reach to a passage from the song 'rock and roll lifestyle' by cake.

'And how much did you pay for your rock'n'roll t-shirt
That proves you were there,
That you heard of them first'

you dont have to compliment the little emo kids because they might be good some day.

Do you ever try to be coherent?

yea, i downloaded some stuff from the Tribune era...clearly not nearly as good as The Thirty years War..but still amazingly impressive for their ages.