Most overrated bands/songs/genre/etc.
 

Here you can post all the things music-wise that you believe are overrated and get more attention than they deserve. For me, here are the most overrated genre, artists, and songs in my opinion:

Arctic Monkeys: yes, I know, many of you will hate me for this but I just don't see what's so special about them. P.S. I'm not biased against English people if that's what you think. (Go Simon!)

Rap: yep, it's not music, it's people speaking. Not MUSIC.

American Idiot: I like Green Day a lot, especially BOBD (I know a lot of people think THAT song's overrated) but American Idiot just isn't as good as people think. I personally believe people only like it for the lyrics which are in my view only about 1/3 of what makes a song great.

It is music. Hear that stuff in the backround, well thats music.

Lyrics are 0/5 of what makes a song great. Lyrics are also 1/1 of what makes lyrics of a song great. See what I am saying?

since your so interested in lyrics... have you read the lyrics to any artic monkeys songs? your not exactly going to find a cute little repeated paragraph that girls can sing along with. you will find deep, meaningful, lyrics in which have alot of things to say. take 'fake tales from san francisco' for example. when he wants to say 'your music sucks and your women are ugly' he drops a beautiful line 'is the prove that loves not only blind but deaf'.

ps Inuzuka Skysword is right... take bob dylan and explosion in the sky for example

Eerrrmmm-no fu[c]k it, i can't be bothered to respond, I am probably old enough to be their farther anyhow and therefore know fook all!

Christ, you sound like my gran.
I heard Paul McCartneys new song the other day, thats pretty overrated, i think most 5 year olds could write a song that simple.

I've been hearing that all week in Starbucks and it is complete shit

Yah, most of Sir Paul's solo stuff sucks balls.

Fixed

Nevermind. That's what I meant.

listen to band on the run album by paul. specifically the tracks 'band on the run' 'nineteen hundred and eighty five' and 'let me roll it'. thats good stuff if you asked me.

The only Wings album I like is Band On The Run, and not by much.

Yet because I defend Paul as a songwriter, Urban has somehow gotten the idea that I'm a huge Wings fanboy who spends every waking hour listening to Mull of Kintyre. >_<

I used to debate with a fellow Beatlemaniac about which of Macca's solo albums is the best. His bid was for Band On The Run, and mine was for Ram.

Years passed, and we went our separate ways. One day, on the newsstand, I found a copy of Mojo magazine that had for a cover article Macca's Ram and the feature article was about why it's his best album. I would have killed to send it to him just to rile him, if I had known where he had drifted off to!

:laughing:

So a magazine writer agreeing with you is proof that you're right?

Rap is mainly poetry with a beat. It's not bad(Most of it, anyway.), it just doesn't entirely fit the description of music.

Rap appeals to listeners because of 1) the beat - this is more prevalent in more "modern" rap music 2) the artist's delivery/ flow / persona and how it prevails in the music 3) the lyrics - can be good or bad really, socially conscious or random ish thrown together

I fail to see how it isn't music, it may not be everyone's cup of tea considering the putrid quality of some rap out right now but it's still music.

A good deal of it doesn't have a melody. A good deal of it does though.

50 Cent - God Gave Me Style

Ah, let me rephrase that. What I meant was large parts of rap songs don't have a melody. The only rap I've heard without a melody the whole way through is little kids trying to rap on the playground :rofl: .

Wow, I never thought I'd hear a professionally done song without a melody.

I'm not under that impression. Are you?

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Referring to the original post. ARCTIC MONKEYS. A band that is buried beneath a ton of hype, and on the face of things; are not that original. The Arctics allure is their quintessential English-ness. Every so often a band comes along that use phrases and colloquialisms adhereing to their own upbringing. The music does'nt have to be particulary original. It nevertheless has honesty and poignancy. THE KINKS/XTC/BLUR-these are bands that are a reminder of ENGLAND-and I salute them. Their music sometimes will not blow your socks off, but I would never consider them overarted.

^ Don't forget The Jam.

Reminds me of watching that 7 Ages Of Rock documentary earlier.

I love how they spent the whole thing pointing out that Britpop was born out of frustration of 80s mainstream music & how the major labels jumped on it & made it safe with bands like Travis, Coldplay & Stereophonics , and then right at the end claimed British music was the best it's ever been which I thought was the biggest load of rubbish i'd ever heard , especially if your giving examples like The Kaiser Chiefs.
I'd say the Arctic Monkeys are the best of a really bad bunch which is why their importance is overstated somewhat.

My point is still the same actually. A good deal of rap "music" doesn't have one of the essential parts of music. To Pilz, you implyed that because a magazine thought that Paul's best solo work was Ram, that it was fact.

I had made no such implication. You made an assumption that I had believed that the article would prove a fact, whereas I had merely wanted to irk my former colleague.

Fair 'nuff?

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Ok, I misinterpreted what you said.

I said I couldn't name one song that had no melody throughout...

Melody: A melody, also known as a tune, is combined with harmony to create a pitch, which gives music(In my opinion)it's richness, and distinguishes it from poetry with a beat. Plenty of rap is very good, and has a melody throughtout, and plenty doesn't. If you really want I'll send you a Pm listing every song that has a melody throughout.

Melody: A melody, also known as a tune, is combined with harmony to create a pitch, which gives music(In my opinion)it's richness, and distinguishes it from poetry with a beat, or other such things. Nothing wrong them they just aren't music in my opinion. Plenty of rap is very good, and has a melody throughtout, and plenty doesn't. If you really want I'll send you a Pm listing every song that has a melody throughout.

step one. count to ten.