Are rappers really musicans? (instrumental, metal, rap, rock, Outkast)

cardboard adolescent · 05-22-2007, 08:24 PM

I don't see any difference between playing guitar, working the turntables, or twisting a little dial that makes terrible death sounds come out of an amplifier. It's all music to me.

PopIsDead · 05-22-2007, 08:24 PM

RapSucks is certainly outnumbered, while everybody else is closing up his breathing space...

RapSucks · 05-22-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Quite a few do actually, and rap is as music form. Music is sound, not instruments. I don't see why you needed to attack rappers for not playing instruments (which is a completely untrue generalization), it would just as much sense to bash Bruce Dickinson, Joey Ramone, and Robert Plant. I mean they just sing, they're not musicians technically. I guess they shouldn't receive any respect in the music field either right?

Yea, if they aren't musicans.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-22-2007, 08:27 PM

I think a majority of mainstream rock is boring tedious rubbish but that doesn't mean I generalise all rock music that way. And I actually listen to rock music , I doubt anyone with your username would bother to make any great effort to listen to any hip hop when you have obviously decided that it's all rubbish.

You seem to be yet another of these boring rock fans who are totally lost at having to listen to anything other than a band with guitar , drums , bass & vocals and have no sense of adventure at all. If you think rap isn't made by proper musicians I pity you if you ever find yourself listening to any experimental or avant garde music , you'll be well out of your depth

RapSucks · 05-22-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PopIsDead

RapSucks is certainly outnumbered, while everybody else is closing up his breathing space...

Well I guess since I'm outnumbered on this little website I'll just give up. Man I'm an idiot for being the only person out of 10 people that has a certain opinion.

**Janszoon** · 05-22-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

I don't see any difference between playing guitar, working the turntables, or twisting a little dial that makes terrible death sounds come out of an amplifier. It's all music to me.

I agree. I mean an open E is an open E on a guitar. Millions of people have written songs with an open E in them but that doesn't make them non-musicians. There are no new notes, it's just in what you do with them. That's why I see sampling, as long as you make it your own, as just as valid as any other way of producing sound.

RapSucks · 05-22-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I think a majority of mainstream rock is boring tedious rubbish but that doesn't mean I generalise all rock music that way. And I actually listen to rock music , I doubt anyone with your username would bother to make any great effort to listen to any hip hop when you have obviously decided that it's all rubbish.

You seem to be yet another of these boring rock fans who are totally lost at having to listen to anything other than a band with guitar , drums , bass & vocals and have no sense of adventure at all. If you think rap isn't made by proper musicians I pity you if you ever find yourself listening to any experimental or avant garde music , you'll be well out of your depth

You have to live under a rock to not hear rap. And I can tell you for sure that I don't live under a rock.
So it's adventurous to take the music out of music?
Rap and rock aren't the only two types of music out there. Not listening to rap is exactly being narrow minded.

**Janszoon** · 05-22-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RapSucks

Not listening to rap is exactly being narrow minded.

You're right.

sleepy jack · 05-22-2007, 08:35 PM

You're basing you're entire opinion of rap off MTV aren't you?

sleepy jack · 05-22-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RapSucks

What I'm saying is that it is a skill to rap but it takes no musical "intelligence."

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Originally Posted by RapSucks

Bottom Line: Sometimes talent doesn't make good music!!!

PWNT

05-22-2007, 08:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
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05-22-2007, 08:27 PM	#24 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I think a majority of mainstream rock is boring tedious rubbish but that doesn't mean I generalise all rock music that way. And I actually listen to rock music , I doubt anyone with your username would bother to make any great effort to listen to any hip hop when you have obviously decided that it's all rubbish. You seem to be yet another of these boring rock fans who are totally lost at having to listen to anything other than a band with guitar , drums , bass & vocals and have no sense of adventure at all. If you think rap isn't made by proper musicians I pity you if you ever find yourself listening to any experimental or avant garde music , you'll be well out of your depth __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

05-22-2007, 08:24 PM	#21 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	I don't see any difference between playing guitar, working the turntables, or twisting a little dial that makes terrible death sounds come out of an amplifier. It's all music to me.