Selling Out (indie, album, member, track, artist)

TheBig3 · 04-29-2007, 09:48 PM

I meant to post this forever ago, but im lazy...

Recently, John Mellancamp told Rolling Stone that he had sold one of his new songs to a television advertisement because doing so got him more air play than any radio station would. In the article he also mentioned that Tom Petty's most recent release "Highway Companion" was an amazing release that radio stations wouldn't touch.

With more and more radio companies hiring "trend trackers", are televised ad's a freer market than the radio? And if this is the case, should we redefine what many would have once considered "selling out?"

TheBig3 · 05-09-2007, 09:06 AM

Ok how about something you won't have to read...

Will television become a viable option for musicians to get exposure with advertising supporting them?

MityJ · 05-09-2007, 11:33 AM

I think commercials have been doing that for some time now. I have heard songs in commercials and then researched to find out what they were. I do the same with indie films.

cardboard adolescent · 05-09-2007, 01:24 PM

I can't be bothered to think about what you're actually asking, but I do recall a lawsuit within the Dead Kennedys over the right to use Holiday in Cambodia in a commercial; Jello refused and the rest of the band wanted to make money off of royalties.

So if you asked Jello, selling your songs for commercials would be considered selling out. Plus, there's the additional fact that you're selling the rights to use your song directly to a corporation, as opposed to a radiostation (who probably have corporate sponsors anyway), and if you're against that kind of thing I could see how that might be troublesome.

I don't remember the question. But there's an opinion about something.

TheBig3 · 05-09-2007, 09:10 PM

Whatever, we're getting toward intelligent discussion.

cardboard adolescent · 05-09-2007, 09:12 PM

Another remark: I've noticed that some commercials have started putting the name of the artist and the song up while the commercial is playing. I noticed some commercial with Mika in it do that.

TheBig3 · 05-09-2007, 09:16 PM

How do you feel about Mika?

cardboard adolescent · 05-09-2007, 09:19 PM

Pretty freakin catchy, though after listening to his album for two weeks or so I got tired of most of the songs.

TheBig3 · 05-09-2007, 09:21 PM

I wondered if it was just me. It seems like he channels Freddy (sp?) too much and because oh that he doesn't know how to be Freddy, and to what to degree, so it often comes off forced.

Trauma · 05-09-2007, 10:13 PM

"All You Need Is Love" by Lennon was on a Visa or Mastercard commercial.

I don't agree with bands selling themselves to corporations for profit.

04-29-2007, 09:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Selling Out I meant to post this forever ago, but im lazy... Recently, John Mellancamp told Rolling Stone that he had sold one of his new songs to a television advertisement because doing so got him more air play than any radio station would. In the article he also mentioned that Tom Petty's most recent release "Highway Companion" was an amazing release that radio stations wouldn't touch. With more and more radio companies hiring "trend trackers", are televised ad's a freer market than the radio? And if this is the case, should we redefine what many would have once considered "selling out?" __________________ I've moved to a new address

05-09-2007, 09:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Ok how about something you won't have to read... Will television become a viable option for musicians to get exposure with advertising supporting them? __________________ I've moved to a new address

05-09-2007, 09:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Whatever, we're getting toward intelligent discussion. __________________ I've moved to a new address

05-09-2007, 09:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	How do you feel about Mika? __________________ I've moved to a new address

05-09-2007, 09:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	I wondered if it was just me. It seems like he channels Freddy (sp?) too much and because oh that he doesn't know how to be Freddy, and to what to degree, so it often comes off forced. __________________ I've moved to a new address

05-09-2007, 11:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
MityJ Groupie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5	I think commercials have been doing that for some time now. I have heard songs in commercials and then researched to find out what they were. I do the same with indie films.

05-09-2007, 01:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	I can't be bothered to think about what you're actually asking, but I do recall a lawsuit within the Dead Kennedys over the right to use Holiday in Cambodia in a commercial; Jello refused and the rest of the band wanted to make money off of royalties. So if you asked Jello, selling your songs for commercials would be considered selling out. Plus, there's the additional fact that you're selling the rights to use your song directly to a corporation, as opposed to a radiostation (who probably have corporate sponsors anyway), and if you're against that kind of thing I could see how that might be troublesome. I don't remember the question. But there's an opinion about something.

05-09-2007, 09:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	Another remark: I've noticed that some commercials have started putting the name of the artist and the song up while the commercial is playing. I noticed some commercial with Mika in it do that.

05-09-2007, 09:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	Pretty freakin catchy, though after listening to his album for two weeks or so I got tired of most of the songs.

05-09-2007, 10:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Trauma snickers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: detroit Posts: 2,194	"All You Need Is Love" by Lennon was on a Visa or Mastercard commercial. I don't agree with bands selling themselves to corporations for profit. __________________ A mi no me importa nada Para mi la vida es un sueño