Best band: Round 1: Poll K
 

Poll K is open for voting:)

Blood Brothers

Rise Against, Blood Brothers second, just so I won't get kicked too hard...

Dinosaur Jr.

Dinosaur Jr.


RAWR

Rise Against

Dinosaur Jr>Blood Brothers>All

Saxon get my vote.

Dinosaur Jr all the way

I'm a big admirer of Dinosaur Junior, but Hendrix takes it with ease.

In fact they'd top a lot of lists for me...but not this one.

Dinosaur Jr. no doubt

T'was between Dinosur Jr and Rise Against for me. But seeing as Rise Against are pretty much my favourite band at the moment, they win.

Rise against for me!

Hendrix is losing to Dinosaur Jr? So... the music experts at musicbanter have deemed a good but not great alt-grunge band that had an interesting yet unremarkable career BETTER than someone who is considered one of the greatest and most influential musicians in rock music history? Isn't the point of these polls to figure out who is the "best"?

Good job folks.

I'm shocked too. Mb made the right choice, so far. It's not about technical skill or influence we could read some stupid magazine if we wanted that but it's about preference.

I prefer Hendrix. Spanish Castle Magic is like an orgasm in an aural format.

Heh. If it's in a magazine that doesn't necessarily make it wrong. Technical skill and influence aside... Dinosaur Jr is still not even close to Jimi Hendrix - I like Dinosaur Jr, don't get me wrong ... but please, I feel like this is a huge joke!

I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS
/ferrell

But seriously, picking DinoJr because you want to be cool and pick the lesser known band is pretty lame. It's apparent to me at least that it's an act of trying to go against the norm for the sake of going against the norm... which, in the end is just conforming all over again.

Hendrix was cool.

But I'd take Dinosaur Jr's music over him anytime.

Its even funnier when going against the norm is the norm, and thus voting to fit in with the norm would make you against the norm.

It's even funnier that I've been on about Dinosaur Jr. for a very long time and that I've never been a huge fan of Jimi.

Not pointing fingers at anyone. I understand it all comes down to taste but liking Dinosaur Jr. over Jimi is kind of baffling. Though that could be my inner musician wanting to vote for the more technical choice.

Forget this "going against the norm" garbage.

Some people like Dinosaur Jr more than Jimi Hendrix. Get over it.

So I made a post that said something like "I don't know why people leave forums" in the Announcements forum - this is one of those reasons that I had previously unforseen.

And again, this does say the BEST BAND poll... not the, oh I know that this band's the best, but I'm going to go ahead and pick this guy instead poll did I miss something?

Stop being such a ****ing stupid fanboy.

Because people argue the validity of a preference or other stupid shit.

I guess you missed the part where ethan said pick your five favorite bands and I'll make a list and all the polls he made said pick your favorite.

i personally think its a very weak poll (even though i was heavily involved in choosing the polls!).

So you ran out of intelligent things to say and took it to a personal level? You obviously have no fvcking idea who you are talking to - you don't know me, I can't remember the last time I sat down and listened to Jimi Hendrix - I don't even have more than 10 songs of his in my digital collection. As a matter of fact - I have more Dinosaur Jr. But Hendrix is motherfvcking hands down better than Dinosaur Jr. So why don't you stop being the stupid fanboy. Goddamned c0ckgobbler.

I had forgotten that these polls were spawned out of this, yes. The titles should be changed to Favorite Band, then. Otherwise most of these polls are blasphemous musically :P.

What objectively defines an artist to be "hands down better" than anyone else?

As far as I'm aware, music is totally subjective, so which band is better than another is entirely down to each individual listener. But here you are, acting as though Hendrix is the only applicable option. Why? Why should someone who enjoys listening to Dinosaur Jr vote for Hendrix just because he's a big name musician and just because he's technically gifted? It's about the emotion, the songs, not technical prowess or influence or any other crap. If you think it's musically blasphemous to vote for any of those bands over Hendrix, then try and be more open-minded and objective and realize that some people prefer the MUSIC to the big name or "correct choice".

Dj

It says The Best. Let me use the convention of a dictionary definition to reiterate my concern with that title.

1. of the highest quality, excellence, or standing

Of this list, I believe Hendrix is the most applicable in terms of "The Best".

Now that I am reminded that these polls were spawned from a "favorite" band thread, then I'm not going to question this openly as I have in this thread - I have held back in other threads, but I have found this to be pretty ridiculous in regards to the aforementioned complaint.

i have problems with the overall concept of this poll system, VERY good bands *cough white stripes cough* arent making the cut when in reality they really should because alot of people like them. However, the basis of this whole event isnt to establish the BEST, its to establish the FAVOURITE band(s) on mb, if it was the best it was just be a generic list comprising of the beatles, zeppelin, the stones, hendrix, the clash etc etc etc - wheres the fun in that?

Agreed. I wasn't aware of that until swimintheundertow's post. Again, I thought we were deciding who was the "best".

Band X
Band Y

say band X is your favorite of the two, you enjoy listening to them more. Surely then, you think that band X is BETTER than band Y, and hence is the BEST band? In your opinion, of course. It surely doesn't matter if there's a variation in style or technical proficiency - is the better band not the one that inspires the best and strongest feelings and emotions in you? To me, that band is better at making music. And hence, "the best". Not overall, because other people will think differently. But to me.

If you like Hendrix best and think his music is better than Dinosaur Jr, fine. But there's no given right to deny anyone else winning this. And there's no given right to deny that ANY OF THE OTHER BANDS COULD BE BETTER THAN HIM, in another person's mind.

If someone could plz explain to me why Jimi Hendrix is definitely, without any doubt, the "best" artist on this poll, please do so. Or am I wrong when I say the quality (QUALITY!) of any art is always subjective?

I'll respond directly with bolded text.

Mk?

Hendrix

This may be your undoing Crowe, but I agree and abck you 100%.

I've been the old man in the corner blabbing about this sort of thing forever. I'm just happy someone I've always considered intelligent is backing me up.

Haha. I'm glad I'm being understood at least. For awhile I thought that maybe I just wasn't articulating my case well. But some people are so concerned about being "right" that they refuse to acknowledge or consider the points made by other people. Which I think is White Lies' problem here.

I usually agree with you actually. I don't post a lot of "Yeah I agree" posts because I'm lazy - but you and I see eye to eye on most things.

Yeah, I think I may take a stab at it again once this is all done, because alot of the polls seem to be like that. This is more of a trial run, sort of. Theres alot of things i'll do differently next time.

Also (I didn't bother reading through the argument I more skimmed because I didn't see the point in reading through the whole thing), i'll be more specific in the future. I didn't really think people would be super technical over my choice in words, pick whatever band you want based on whatever criteria you choose to vote, best, favorite, coolest name, w/e.

Everything matter when winning is your goal.

I ask you; what is the point of music? To enjoy it, and to inspire emotions within you? That's what I look for. And if a pop-punk band can do that more effectively than a classical musician, then I won’t deny that I find the pop-punk band better than the classical artist, even if that seems ridiculous to "clasically trained" musicians who obviously look for different things.

I want music to be passionate, with interesting lyrics that can make a statement, that can encourage the listener and get them to think. That's what makes music good, to me. There are lots of bands who haven't had the chance to be classically trained are still perfectly capable of writing music that many people will find to hit all the right spots. I's all about the listener and what they look for, though. To me, there is more passion and substance in early Dinosaur Jr albums than I’ve ever heard from any Hendrrx.


You are correct, you didn't deny it. But you implied it was ridiculous and somehow wrong that Dinosaur Jr were beating Hendrx, and that people could possibly think that Dino were better. The fact you thought this was about "the best band" or whatever is IRRELEVANT. I am not discounting your right to state your opinion, I'm saying that don't spout bull**** like "musically blasphemous" just because the band you think (THINK, my friend) is better isn't winning. It was yr attitude, and how you seemed to think it was outside the realm of possibility that Dinosaur Jr could've made better music than Jimi Hendrix. For example:


Not a fact. An opinion.

see above

Prove that Hendrix is the best, and everyone knows that that is a fact. Then I'll concede you have a point.

Or people think Dinosaur Jr is better than Hendrix? BETTER. THE BEST of the two. Yeah, that'll be it.

Clearly. Since you understand that people have a different idea of what "the best" is, you (hopefully) can now recognize that there is no artist who SHOULD win the poll, whether it be someone's favorite OR who they regard "the best". So let people vote whatever way they want, and don't be a pompous ******* about it.

good day.