The Official Captain Beefheart Thread

**Frownland** · 10-21-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chives

I'm considering getting the Grow Fins set soon. It is pretty pricey but I assume it's worth it and hey, I love the Beef more than I love myself a lot of the times so I'd like to own it. Sounds like a good investment. The vinyl version comes as three (sold separately) double-LP volumes, but if I buy them I'll just get them all at once.

It's pretty good for people who want to listen to the instrumentals for TMR since they're unaccompanied. There are several great live pieces on the album (Tubeworks is the best one on there by far), but for me the radio interview where the Captain sings over the phone of a radio DJ who called him on the fly.

I've recently found some great concert footage of the Captain from the seventies. I could really imagine going to a concert and expecting Frank Zappa and then getting this, it would probably be too much for your average listener.

Chives · 10-22-2012, 10:17 PM

That was pretty great. The toe part was very strange, though.

I also watched the Letterman interviews that were shown on the sidebar. Good stuff as well. I should spend more time looking into his live videos and interviews, because they are quite entertaining.

I put off on Grow Fins. I want to complete my vinyl core discography before I deal with that monster. And so I ordered a copy of Strictly Personal. A real shame they never reissued that sucker (besides a late 90s reissue that apparently sounded really bad and is hard to find anyway) and it's always been an awkward hole in my collection. Will have it soon enough. Then I'll just have to get Ice Cream For Crow, Unconditionally Guaranteed, and Blue Jeans and Moonbeams...all except the last I'm looking forward to owning.

**Frownland** · 10-22-2012, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chives

That was pretty great. The toe part was very strange, though.

I also watched the Letterman interviews that were shown on the sidebar. Good stuff as well. I should spend more time looking into his live videos and interviews, because they are quite entertaining.

I put off on Grow Fins. I want to complete my vinyl core discography before I deal with that monster. And so I ordered a copy of Strictly Personal. A real shame they never reissued that sucker (besides a late 90s reissue that apparently sounded really bad and is hard to find anyway) and it's always been an awkward hole in my collection. Will have it soon enough. Then I'll just have to get Ice Cream For Crow, Unconditionally Guaranteed, and Blue Jeans and Moonbeams...all except the last I'm looking forward to owning.

You don't have Ice Cream For Crow!!!?!?!!?!?!? It's one of the Captain's greatest albums, I'd say that its his second best album behind TMR. If anything, just listen to Cardboard Cutout Sundown, it's one of my all time favourite songs:

Howard the Duck · 10-22-2012, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chives

That was pretty great. The toe part was very strange, though.

I also watched the Letterman interviews that were shown on the sidebar. Good stuff as well. I should spend more time looking into his live videos and interviews, because they are quite entertaining.

I put off on Grow Fins. I want to complete my vinyl core discography before I deal with that monster. And so I ordered a copy of Strictly Personal. A real shame they never reissued that sucker (besides a late 90s reissue that apparently sounded really bad and is hard to find anyway) and it's always been an awkward hole in my collection. Will have it soon enough. Then I'll just have to get Ice Cream For Crow, Unconditionally Guaranteed, and Blue Jeans and Moonbeams...all except the last I'm looking forward to owning.

look i'd say don't bother with Grow Fins unless you're a total connoiseuer

Chives · 10-23-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck

look i'd say don't bother with Grow Fins unless you're a total connoiseuer

Probably true. I'll put off on for now, but I'll probably end up buying it sooner or later after I have everything else. I just don't want to miss a good price on it is all.

Chives · 10-22-2012, 10:43 PM

I've heard it once early on but I don't really remember it. After becoming a Beefheart fan I wanted to save something so I'd have it to look forward to later after I knew most of his other material. Make sense? But don't worry; it's next on my list, and I intend to purchase it soon after I get a bit more cash.

**Frownland** · 10-23-2012, 10:11 AM

You're gonna want to fill up your catalog with the missing studio albums before you get grow fins.

Chives · 10-23-2012, 10:15 AM

Yeah that's what I meant. As I said, I only considered Grow Fins because I saw it at what I thought was a decent price. And really, it shouldn't be much longer till I have the rest of the studio stuff. Unconditionally Guaranteed and Ice Cream For Crow have nice reissues everywhere and Blue Jeans is usually cheap enough.

EDIT: Shoot wait, I always forget about the A&M Sessions. Many ways to get that but I always forget about them.

Chives · 10-28-2012, 10:24 PM

The copy of Strictly Personal I got off ebay arrived over the weekend. The record has no scratches or anything, although it sounds a bit worn. But that's how a lot of older records end up sounding after some time on the tables, so I'm just glad to finally have a copy.

After being so used to the clear-sounding Mirror Man Sessions versions of most of the songs it's a bit weird hearing the Strictly Personal mixes again. Some of the stuff I don't mind, like the strange heartbeat put over a track, but man sometimes the sound is crazy weird. I forget how the CD sounds, though. Maybe it's better. Or maybe I'm just spoiled when it comes to album production.

Does anybody feel Strictly Personal is underrated? I think it might grow on me as I give it more listening.

Howard the Duck · 10-28-2012, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chives

The copy of Strictly Personal I got off ebay arrived over the weekend. The record has no scratches or anything, although it sounds a bit worn. But that's how a lot of older records end up sounding after some time on the tables, so I'm just glad to finally have a copy.

After being so used to the clear-sounding Mirror Man Sessions versions of most of the songs it's a bit weird hearing the Strictly Personal mixes again. Some of the stuff I don't mind, like the strange heartbeat put over a track, but man sometimes the sound is crazy weird. I forget how the CD sounds, though. Maybe it's better. Or maybe I'm just spoiled when it comes to album production.

Does anybody feel Strictly Personal is underrated? I think it might grow on me as I give it more listening.

no, i don't think it's underrated

if anything, I feel it totally unrepresentative of the Cap's sound and he felt the same way about it as well

for what it's worth, it is a "step" in the development towards Trout Mask

10-22-2012, 10:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chives Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 299	That was pretty great. The toe part was very strange, though. I also watched the Letterman interviews that were shown on the sidebar. Good stuff as well. I should spend more time looking into his live videos and interviews, because they are quite entertaining. I put off on Grow Fins. I want to complete my vinyl core discography before I deal with that monster. And so I ordered a copy of Strictly Personal. A real shame they never reissued that sucker (besides a late 90s reissue that apparently sounded really bad and is hard to find anyway) and it's always been an awkward hole in my collection. Will have it soon enough. Then I'll just have to get Ice Cream For Crow, Unconditionally Guaranteed, and Blue Jeans and Moonbeams...all except the last I'm looking forward to owning. __________________ [My last.fm] [My Tumblr]

10-22-2012, 10:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chives Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 299	I've heard it once early on but I don't really remember it. After becoming a Beefheart fan I wanted to save something so I'd have it to look forward to later after I knew most of his other material. Make sense? But don't worry; it's next on my list, and I intend to purchase it soon after I get a bit more cash. __________________ [My last.fm] [My Tumblr]

10-23-2012, 10:11 AM	#7 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	You're gonna want to fill up your catalog with the missing studio albums before you get grow fins. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

10-23-2012, 10:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Chives Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 299	Yeah that's what I meant. As I said, I only considered Grow Fins because I saw it at what I thought was a decent price. And really, it shouldn't be much longer till I have the rest of the studio stuff. Unconditionally Guaranteed and Ice Cream For Crow have nice reissues everywhere and Blue Jeans is usually cheap enough. EDIT: Shoot wait, I always forget about the A&M Sessions. Many ways to get that but I always forget about them. __________________ [My last.fm] [My Tumblr]

10-28-2012, 10:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chives Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 299	The copy of Strictly Personal I got off ebay arrived over the weekend. The record has no scratches or anything, although it sounds a bit worn. But that's how a lot of older records end up sounding after some time on the tables, so I'm just glad to finally have a copy. After being so used to the clear-sounding Mirror Man Sessions versions of most of the songs it's a bit weird hearing the Strictly Personal mixes again. Some of the stuff I don't mind, like the strange heartbeat put over a track, but man sometimes the sound is crazy weird. I forget how the CD sounds, though. Maybe it's better. Or maybe I'm just spoiled when it comes to album production. Does anybody feel Strictly Personal is underrated? I think it might grow on me as I give it more listening. __________________ [My last.fm] [My Tumblr]