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Old 02-07-2007, 04:16 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Quad/Tommy and Any Zep album is PURELY subjective. Put Both on there for goodness sakes.
Almost everything about pop music is subjective. It's all about who has the better argument.
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:19 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Almost everything about pop music is subjective. It's all about who has the better argument.
I was talking about a focused subjectivity as opposed to an inane general subjectivity, but thanks.
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:43 PM   #173 (permalink)
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Apart from the obvious old classics, my life just wouldn't be the same without:

Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
Grace - Jeff Buckley
Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
To Venus and Back - Tori Amos
Ten - Pearl Jam
Rain Dogs - Tom Waits
Murder Ballads - Nick Cave
Little Creatures - Talking Heads
Pretty Hate Machine - NIN
DeLoused in the Comatorium - The Mars Volta
Dry - PJ Harvey
OK Computer - Radiohead
Agaetis Byrjun - Sigur Ros
King For a Day - Faith No More
..........And Justice For All - Metallica
Pearl - Janis Joplin / Big Brother & the Holding Company
Post - Bjork
Brothers in Arms - Dire Straights
Dirt - Alice in Chains
Smells Like Children - Marilyn Manson
On Stage at Chastain Park - James Brown
Badmotorfinger - Soundgarden
De Stijl - The White Stripes
Songs of Love and Devotion - Depeche Mode
Blindmelon - Blindmelon
Bayou Country - CCR
Eddie and the Cruisers - Soundtrack
Tales From Urban Bohemia - The Dandy Warhols
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain - Pavement
Piano Man - Billy Joel
Lies - Guns 'n' Roses
Jesus Christ Superstar - Original Soundtrack
Waiting For the Sun - The Doors
At The Mountains of Madness - Blackfeather
Don't Say No - Billy Squier
Blues Brothers - Soundtrack
Fireball - Deep Purple
Monster - REM
Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash
Pump - Aerosmith

I'm sure there is a hundred more but I just couldn't be bothered at the moment.
Did you even bother reading the first post and what the question was? Radiohead's OK Computer is the album that prompted this whole thread in the first place.

You also seemed to have the capability to pick all the least impressive albums by the artist. I bolded two or three that really stuck out and bothered me as being considered the best.

Also, a good number of those artists shouldn't even be considered in the first place.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:08 PM   #174 (permalink)
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I didn't say they were the best, Who can?

I said my life wouldn't be the same without them.

That makes them MY classic albums. It doesn't mean I've picked artists best albums, I picked ones that stuck out to me, I don't think Ziggy is Bowies best but it certainly changed me so it's on there.

Don't be so uptight man.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:30 PM   #175 (permalink)
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You don't like Joanna Newsom either. I think you've gota bias against female voices that have character.
Im not even going to look for his responce, but those voices don't have character, their affected, you can tell, and their lack of passion by way of their lack of honest signing condems them to a life of ridicule in my mind.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:56 PM   #176 (permalink)
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Im not even going to look for his responce, but those voices don't have character, their affected, you can tell, and their lack of passion by way of their lack of honest signing condems them to a life of ridicule in my mind.
I don't think they'll be too damaged by any blows your mind can dish out. They'll be too busy with their sucessful careers.
Anyway...Newsom's voice is not affected. She originally felt extremely uncomfortable with her voice and only started regularly making vocal recordings when a friend of hers sent a tape to a record company without her knowledge and they loved it. If she could have sung in a more conventional way, then she would have. However her voice is totally unique. Besides, what your calling affectation, I'd see as an artist being creative with what they were given. Why is the development of a style such a crime? Music is primarily an aesthetic medium, so the level of stimulation the sound provides is more important than anything behind it. Besides the idea of "honest singing" is more than a little silly to me. Robert Plant didn't have to sing the way he did. That primal howl was an affectation. Is Led Zeppelin all the better for it? I think so.
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:07 PM   #177 (permalink)
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I don't think they'll be too damaged by any blows your mind can dish out. They'll be too busy with their sucessful careers.
Well I'm fairly certain one is dead, so she won't be enjoying much of anything. As for Joanna, well I don't know what we're calling success these days but hey, I won a coloring contest in 3rd grade once.


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Anyway...Newsom's voice is not affected...Besides, what your calling affectation, I'd see as an artist being creative with what they were given.
Im confused here, shes not affecting it in anyway, yet shes being creative? Explain. Either she's singing in a manner to acheive a desiered result or shes singing as she is. If you don't agree with that point, flesh it out further.


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Why is the development of a style such a crime? Music is primarily an aesthetic medium, so the level of stimulation the sound provides is more important than anything behind it. Besides the idea of "honest singing" is more than a little silly to me. Robert Plant didn't have to sing the way he did. That primal howl was an affectation. Is Led Zeppelin all the better for it? I think so.
Point taken, but don't you think it defines a degree of novelty? I mean newsome isn't even attempting to sing conventionally so to assume she's trying might be far fetched. Its a niche. I think theres a coy degree of "i'm so awful but aren't I so counter-culturally cool?"

If changing your voice was a crime I should throw out all my Waits CD's, thats not what i'm after here, its more the idea that their singing in a way to distance themselves from the masses, and I think whats more irritating about it is that fans of especailly newsome are touting it as if people who dislike her voice are uncultured freaks.
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:10 PM   #178 (permalink)
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Did you even bother reading the first post and what the question was? Radiohead's OK Computer is the album that prompted this whole thread in the first place.

You also seemed to have the capability to pick all the least impressive albums by the artist. I bolded two or three that really stuck out and bothered me as being considered the best.

Also, a good number of those artists shouldn't even be considered in the first place.
Whats wrong with his choices other than the obviously hipster choice of Lies.
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Point taken, but don't you think it defines a degree of novelty? I mean newsome isn't even attempting to sing conventionally so to assume she's trying might be far fetched. Its a niche. I think theres a coy degree of "i'm so awful but aren't I so counter-culturally cool?"

If changing your voice was a crime I should throw out all my Waits CD's, thats not what i'm after here, its more the idea that their singing in a way to distance themselves from the masses, and I think whats more irritating about it is that fans of especailly newsome are touting it as if people who dislike her voice are uncultured freaks.
Newsom's voice never even struck me as that unconventional, I actually found it quite endearing the first time I heard it, much like when I first heard Tom Waits. I mean, it's obviously not for everyone but then there are people like Simon Cowell who think Dylan can't sing. To each his own. Joanna seems to me much too modest and sincere to be employing her voice as a gimmick to get indie cred.
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Maybe, I don't know her personally, but its just sooo far off the mark. I mean, a voice that contorted from commonality would require one to talk ****ed up, to a certain degree.
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