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Old 02-07-2007, 08:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im not even going to look for his responce, but those voices don't have character, their affected, you can tell, and their lack of passion by way of their lack of honest signing condems them to a life of ridicule in my mind.
I don't think they'll be too damaged by any blows your mind can dish out. They'll be too busy with their sucessful careers.
Anyway...Newsom's voice is not affected. She originally felt extremely uncomfortable with her voice and only started regularly making vocal recordings when a friend of hers sent a tape to a record company without her knowledge and they loved it. If she could have sung in a more conventional way, then she would have. However her voice is totally unique. Besides, what your calling affectation, I'd see as an artist being creative with what they were given. Why is the development of a style such a crime? Music is primarily an aesthetic medium, so the level of stimulation the sound provides is more important than anything behind it. Besides the idea of "honest singing" is more than a little silly to me. Robert Plant didn't have to sing the way he did. That primal howl was an affectation. Is Led Zeppelin all the better for it? I think so.
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Old 02-07-2007, 10:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't think they'll be too damaged by any blows your mind can dish out. They'll be too busy with their sucessful careers.
Well I'm fairly certain one is dead, so she won't be enjoying much of anything. As for Joanna, well I don't know what we're calling success these days but hey, I won a coloring contest in 3rd grade once.


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Anyway...Newsom's voice is not affected...Besides, what your calling affectation, I'd see as an artist being creative with what they were given.
Im confused here, shes not affecting it in anyway, yet shes being creative? Explain. Either she's singing in a manner to acheive a desiered result or shes singing as she is. If you don't agree with that point, flesh it out further.


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Why is the development of a style such a crime? Music is primarily an aesthetic medium, so the level of stimulation the sound provides is more important than anything behind it. Besides the idea of "honest singing" is more than a little silly to me. Robert Plant didn't have to sing the way he did. That primal howl was an affectation. Is Led Zeppelin all the better for it? I think so.
Point taken, but don't you think it defines a degree of novelty? I mean newsome isn't even attempting to sing conventionally so to assume she's trying might be far fetched. Its a niche. I think theres a coy degree of "i'm so awful but aren't I so counter-culturally cool?"

If changing your voice was a crime I should throw out all my Waits CD's, thats not what i'm after here, its more the idea that their singing in a way to distance themselves from the masses, and I think whats more irritating about it is that fans of especailly newsome are touting it as if people who dislike her voice are uncultured freaks.
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Old 02-08-2007, 03:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You don't like Joanna Newsom either. I think you've gota bias against female voices that have character.
Naturally , I hate 2 female singers so obviously I must hate all of them.
Just like I obviously hate all hip hop because I don`t like 50 Cent or Eminem and I probably hate all guitar music because I hate Muse & Coldplay.
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Old 02-08-2007, 07:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Naturally , I hate 2 female singers so obviously I must hate all of them.
Just like I obviously hate all hip hop because I don`t like 50 Cent or Eminem and I probably hate all guitar music because I hate Muse & Coldplay.
You're missing my point. But oh well.
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd go with It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back.
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is every bit as country as Straight Outta Compton.........................plus it is a steaming pile of sh!t
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Haha...I take it you disagree then? Yah, I didn't think it was that classic meself.
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I wouldn't piss on that album if it was on fire

Also on my list I forgot to mention:

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Old 02-02-2007, 04:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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The Heartless Bastards - Stairs & Escalators (2005, Fat Possum)
Great great debut record by this band from Ohio that slipped under the radar. Future classic status is guaranteed.

Alexander Spence - Oar
The only album by this largely forgotten folkie. Played every instrument on the album himself. Influenced lo-fi folk music bands like Smog and Sebadoh.
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