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Old 02-03-2007, 08:11 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Ok, I think I got it all now...why hasn't anyone (more knowledgeable) mentioned the New York Dolls, or Echo and the Bunnymen? They're supposed to be really influential bands no? What about XTC? I've heard them mention a gazzillion times..
To be honest I don`t think either of those bands made one great album.If you are going for their biggest albums then you`d have Ocean Rain by Echo & The Bunnymen and you`d have Drums & Wires by XTC.
But personally I think Heaven Up Here & English Settlement were much better albums , but they never get anywhere near as much attention.
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:22 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Should I include an album voted 493 of all time by The Rolling Stone magazine? What about the 492 that are supposedly better?
Are we really going to consider Rolling Stone the almighty judge of music, just because it's the most prominent one? Their typical cover subjects alone are enough to show they're all about advertising popular trends and unwaveringly embracing the "safe" opinion. You got me on the Shins reference I guess, but my point of reference for that statement was Chutes Too Narrow, and I have to admit I was grasping for another band to make the sentence more symmetrical and I settled for what came to mind...so maybe that isn't the best example, but I stand by Fruitbats. Give their album Mouthfuls a listen if you get a chance. It's no classic, but it's incredibly pleasant and shows a lot of potential (which reminds me...I wonder what ever happened to them). I just see YHF as a bit of an indie landmark...but if you don't wanna include it, I wouldn't lose any sleep. It's not a personal fave or anything. But still I'm a little lost as to why you reference Rolling Stone's list, when from all I gather this thread is meant to get a different perspective from that of the typical magazine lists. So use them as any sort of a guide.

Also: I'm curious as to how you're compiling the list Adi. I found it interesting that you included Marquee Moon (which I know you hate) but have so far excluded a lot of other albums for reasons that haven't been made apparent so I was wondering what your criteria is in choosing the albums or excluding those that aren't vetoed...It seems like this thread would miss the point a bit if it were to become based on your personal preferences. Maybe you count your own disapproval as a veto, which is fine, but I think it would be only fair to voice that and explain the reasoning behind it.
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Old 02-04-2007, 02:12 AM   #113 (permalink)
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I'm not really vetoing anything right now, when someone mentions an album I go and search for references, some of the albums mentioned simply didn't seem like musical landmarks, more like personal favorites (Cat Power for example). I'm not saying Rolling Stone is an almighty judge of music, I just thought that based on that list, there were possibly a lot of other albums that should be considered prior to YHF. Marquee Moon may not be my cup of tea, but I realize why it might be considered important and I'm willing to give it another go.
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:08 AM   #114 (permalink)
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Some more.....

Fairport Convention - Liege and Lief (1969) (Folk /Rock)
The starting point of British folk rock , a huge influence on what came after.Constantly tops polls voted for by fans of folk.

The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society (1969)(Britpop)
Copied by almost every british pop band from 1980`s onwards

Sly & The Family Stone - There`s A Riot Goin On (1971)(Funk)
Sly Stones answer to Marvin ***e`s Whats Goin On ...literally.
Political , Dark, Funky and one of the most iconic album covers ever.

Big Star - Radio City (1972)(Power pop/Rock)
Big Star invent power pop 7 years too early and influence 3 decades of indie pop bands

Curtis Mayfield - Superfly (1972)(Funk)
The greatest movie soundtrack ever made. F*ck Saturday Night Fever.

The Specials - S/T (1979)(Ska/2Tone)
Single handedly launched 2Tone , were probably the most important band in the UK in the early 80s and had the record sales to back it up.

Public Image LTD - Metal Box (1979)(Post Punk)
About 1000 time better than never mind the bollocks and thats listed.More ambitious , more inventive and much noisier than the Pistols ever were.

New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies (1983)(Dance)
One of the most underrated albums ever in my opinion , New Order take italian house music and make it relevent by adding their take on living in Thacherite Britain

The Fall - This Nations Saving Grace (1985)(Post Punk)
Because I have to include a Fall album.The only time I ever had any respect for Pitchfork was when they voted this the album of the 80s. Wouldn`t go that far myself but this is the most important album for me from the mid 80s.

Faith No More - The Real Thing (1989)(Funk Rock)
It can`t be a coincidence that after this came out hundreds of rock & metal bands started slapping their bass and adding rappers in the band. Doesn`t get anywhere near the credit it deserves.

De La Soul - Three Feet High And Rising (1989) (Hip Hop)
I think this is the greatest hip hop album of all time.

Massive Attack - Blue Lines (1991)(Trip Hop)
First trip hop album ever made and started an entire genre , first band to mix hip hop , reggae , dance , electronica ...and so on & so on.

Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk (1996)(Indie Pop)
Almost single handedly restarted the scottish indie scene and was one of the most sought after albums until it finally got a proper release about 5 years later.And was just as good as was expected.

Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)(Dance)
Best dance album ever made? ... I think so

And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead - Source Tags & Codes (2002)(Rock)
If you want rock albums post 2000 , I can`t think of too many more deserving ones than this.
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Woh, I didn't know much about Big Star but I seriously thought they were from like the 90s =x

My respect for them has risen.
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Urban can you upload a trail of the dead song for me to sample?
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:21 AM   #117 (permalink)
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Another Morning Stoner.
According to Last FM it`s their most listened to song.And it`s on Source Tags & Codes as well.
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Nice post Urb.
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I'm not really vetoing anything right now, when someone mentions an album I go and search for references, some of the albums mentioned simply didn't seem like musical landmarks, more like personal favorites (Cat Power for example). I'm not saying Rolling Stone is an almighty judge of music, I just thought that based on that list, there were possibly a lot of other albums that should be considered prior to YHF. Marquee Moon may not be my cup of tea, but I realize why it might be considered important and I'm willing to give it another go.
I thought whole point of this was to pick albums we thought any music fan should listen to, not neccessarily the ones that have shaped musical history.

Does it really matter if an album was important to musical history if its full of filler?
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No, the point of this isn't to just name any old album you enjoyed. I could have named a shitload of post millennium bands, but I doubt anyone would consider them "must-listens". And any album that's widely considered "important" or "classic" is hardly full of filler, otherwise it wouldn't have that status. That's your personal opinion.
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