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TheBig3 01-12-2007 01:47 PM
Well we probably like diffrent SFA, I mean I like "Don't give a ****" "nothern lgihts" and "end of the world"

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 01:49 PM
What I mean is that it has a wide range of influences and it has more of the urgency of their earlier material.

there`s a link for it here ...

hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/6442682/Gruff_Rhys_-_Candylion.rar

Friday 01-12-2007 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowe (Post 324386)
I love Night at the Opera. Calling it overblown, pompous rubbish is overblown pompous rubbish in itself.

Love,
The Biggest Queen Fanboi ever.
You should try their earlier stuff. It seems alot less forced than the stuff on Night At The Opera.

A Night At The Opera is only mentioned because MCR have name dropped as an influence on their new album.

On the subject of the Libertines. I think Up The Bracket is a fairly good album.

As for Pulp, Different Class is a brilliant album. It would have aged better if it had not been stamped with the Britpop tag.

boo boo 01-12-2007 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 324392)
SFA is worth another shot honestly.
I already told you I like them, actually I love them, Radiator is already up there as one of my favorite 90s albums.

So yes, I thank Urban for getting me into them, but I guess I'm just not open minded enough to get into a lot of brit pop, most of it is pretty crap to me, and most of Urbans recomendations on that paticular field of music just didn't make a good impression on me.

TheBig3 01-12-2007 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Friday (Post 324398)
A Night At The Opera is only mentioned because MCR have name dropped as an influence on their new album.

As for Pulp, Different Class is a brilliant album. It would have aged better if it had not been stamped with the Britpop tag.
I couldn't disagree with these statements more fiercely.

1. MCR has nothing to do with the acclaim that Night at the Opera has found.

2. I don't care if we call it electroclash, tags don't make thing sgae poorly, bad music does.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 324426)
most of Urbans recomendations on that paticular field of music just didn't make a good impression on me.
Thats because 95% of it was sh*t.

But sentimental sh*t which is why I listen to it once in a while.

Sneer 01-12-2007 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 316015)
yeah, a short burst of 15 years and counting.
please, nirvana would be nowhere near as big or talked about today if it wasnt for Kurts suicide, morbid, but true. his death has immortalized a band that made one decent record and a couple of mediocre records. One good album does not compare to at least 4 great albums. And plus, without the pixies, sonic youth, melvins or mudhoney, there'd be no nirvana and no marketable term known as "grunge". Kurt and co. merely made a movement mainstream, much like the strokes did with the garage rock scene, and i guarantee if casablancas popped his cloggs everybody would be ho-ha'ing over the greatness of a band, like nirvana, who made one very good album and 2 average at best.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 04:45 PM
Swap Jack White with that prick from The Strokes & i`ll agree with you

Sneer 01-12-2007 04:47 PM
im afraid i cant urbz, for the stripes have a far superior back catalogue to nirvana. i have to use a band that's on a level pegging.

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 04:48 PM
Point taken :)

boo boo 01-12-2007 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 324435)
Thats because 95% of it was sh*t.

But sentimental sh*t which is why I listen to it once in a while.
So you actually admit to listening to a lot of sh*t music.


Interesting. :laughing:

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-12-2007 05:34 PM
How would I know it`s sh*t if I don`t listen to it.

Besides ,all the sh*t bands that clogged up Britpop take nothing away from the good ones

Friday 01-12-2007 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 324431)
I couldn't disagree with these statements more fiercely.

1. MCR has nothing to do with the acclaim that Night at the Opera has found.

2. I don't care if we call it electroclash, tags don't make thing sgae poorly, bad music does.
1. I think that the NME have only included in this list for those reasons because that's the sort of magazine the NME is. Night At The Opera's acclaim before this is different.

2. I think if a band are tagged under a particular movement then it is bound to age badly, seeing as it is seen as a stereoypical example of a certain time in popular music. Pulp however, has aged much better than Blur or Oasis.

Raine 01-12-2007 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 315701)
Here's the full list;

1. 'Definitely Maybe' - Oasis
2. 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band' - The Beatles
3. 'Revolver' - The Beatles
4. 'OK Computer' - Radiohead
5. '(What's The Story) Morning Glory?' - Oasis
6. 'Nevermind' - Nirvana
7. 'The Stone Roses' - The Stone Roses
8. 'Dark Side Of The Moon' - Pink Floyd
9. 'The Queen Is Dead' - The Smiths
10. 'The Bends' - Radiohead
11. 'The Joshua Tree' - U2
12. 'London Calling' - The Clash
13. 'The Beatles (The White Album)' - The Beatles
14. 'Abbey Road' - The Beatles
15. 'Up The Bracket' - The Libertines
16. 'Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols' - Sex Pistols
17. 'Four Symbols (Led Zeppelin IV)' - Led Zeppelin
18. 'The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars' - David Bowie
19. 'A Night At The Opera' - Queen
20. 'Is This It' - The Strokes
This list is garbage.
The Strokes making any list of this sort is an atrocity.
Oasis made the list twice.
this is horrible.
If Nirvana can make the list The Foo Fighters should've been on there as well.

that's just my take on it

Sparky 01-12-2007 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Raine (Post 324553)
This list is garbage.
The Strokes making any list of this sort is an atrocity.
Oasis made the list twice.
this is horrible.
If Nirvana can make the list The Foo Fighters should've been on there as well.

that's just my take on it
but the foo fighters didn't make as big of an impact as nirvana

sleepy jack 01-12-2007 07:51 PM
Yeah, why the foo fighters? They're enjoyable but really they're just your typical MTV rock band.

Raine 01-12-2007 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324577)
Yeah, why the foo fighters? They're enjoyable but really they're just your typical MTV rock band.
I don't associate them with MTV. I'd rather think of it as MTV getting better taste in music.
But MTV would probably play Nirvana if Kurt were still alive.

sleepy jack 01-12-2007 08:05 PM
Yeah, but I didn't mean MTV rock band as in they're played on MTV. I meant typical and meant for the mainstream. You can call it radio rock if you want.

Raine 01-12-2007 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324586)
Yeah, but I didn't mean MTV rock band as in they're played on MTV. I meant typical and meant for the mainstream. You can call it radio rock if you want.
Well if you look at it that way then you're saying that The Foo Fighters are a mainstream band which they kinda are.
but I've neevr heard of MTV playing songs from their early albums.
The one song I know they played often was Low when it first came.

I guess that means that the foo fighters were able to broaden their audience.

boo boo 01-12-2007 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LedZepStu (Post 324437)
please, nirvana would be nowhere near as big or talked about today if it wasnt for Kurts suicide, morbid, but true. his death has immortalized a band that made one decent record and a couple of mediocre records. One good album does not compare to at least 4 great albums. And plus, without the pixies, sonic youth, melvins or mudhoney, there'd be no nirvana and no marketable term known as "grunge". Kurt and co. merely made a movement mainstream, much like the strokes did with the garage rock scene, and i guarantee if casablancas popped his cloggs everybody would be ho-ha'ing over the greatness of a band, like nirvana, who made one very good album and 2 average at best.
The first paragraph has partial truth to it, everything else is pure bullsh*t, Nevermind and In Utero were BOTH very good albums, as was the unplugged album.

Nirvana were already pretty much the most popular band in the world when Cobain died, with Pearl Jam still very popular today, so I'm sure Nirvana would be as well, even if not as much as they were before Cobain died.


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without the pixies, sonic youth, melvins or mudhoney, there'd be no nirvana and no marketable term known as "grunge".
No sh*t, whats your goddamn point?... That having influences is bad?

And Raine, The Foo Fighters barely even had an impact, you can argue for quality, but as far as I'm concerned in overall greatness, Nevermind is a top 50 album.

But Colour and the Shape is probably in the top 1000 I'm sure.

Sparky 01-12-2007 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324586)
Yeah, but I didn't mean MTV rock band as in they're played on MTV. I meant typical and meant for the mainstream. You can call it radio rock if you want.
yes i have to agree..They are certainly good at what they do, and Dave Grohl hasn't let success get to his head. But they never did anything totally different, or were that darring or anything special.

I liked what Krist Noveselic did with Sweet 75 more, even if technically it wasn't as good.

Raine 01-12-2007 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by matious (Post 324594)
yes i have to agree..They are certainly good at what they do, and Dave Grohl hasn't let success get to his head. But they never did anything totally different, or were that darring or anything special.

I liked what Krist Noveselic did with Sweet 75 more, even if technically it wasn't as good.
Daring and being totally different in terms of what?

I'm not a big fan of audioslave but Chris Cornell's performances are different than most other vocalists.

sleepy jack 01-12-2007 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Raine (Post 324591)
Well if you look at it that way then you're saying that The Foo Fighters are a mainstream band which they kinda are.
but I've neevr heard of MTV playing songs from their early albums.
The one song I know they played often was Low when it first came.

I guess that means that the foo fighters were able to broaden their audience.
Their debut went platinum in the U.S. & they had 3 hits off it, Big Me got to number 3 on the U.S. charts. The Colour and The Shape had, Everlong, Monkey Wrench, My Hero and Walking After You, which was on the X-Files soundtrack. I've seen the Everlong video on MTV quite a bit. I'd consider that mainstream, and did you read my post at all? I wasn't just talking about MTV.

Their first officially album, was basically just Grohl the second is more considered their debut. Either way, both earlier albums.

Sparky 01-12-2007 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Raine (Post 324597)
Daring and being totally different in terms of what?

I'm not a big fan of audioslave but Chris Cornell's performances are different than most other vocalists.
well i meant in terms of doing something different..umm, something more interesting or something the general people had quite heard before-like nirvana.

i dont really know what im trying to say...

And i love Chris Cornell, and he is doing something new with his latest solo-album, i cant wait to hear his cover of "Billy Jean" especially

Raine 01-12-2007 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324599)
Their debut went platinum in the U.S. & they had 3 hits off it, Big Me got to number 3 on the U.S. charts. The Colour and The Shape had, Everlong, Monkey Wrench, My Hero and Walking After You, which was on the X-Files soundtrack. I've seen the Everlong video on MTV quite a bit. I'd consider that mainstream, and did you read my post at all? I wasn't just talking about MTV.

Their first officially album, was basically just Grohl the second is more considered their debut. Either way, both earlier albums.
I read the rest of your post about them being radio rock which i whole don't dispute.

But how often does MTV play stuff from their early albums. the most they play anything by the foo fighters is probably a few times a year.

To matious:
Chris Cornell is freaking awesome

Sparky 01-12-2007 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Raine (Post 324601)
I read the rest of your post about them being radio rock which i whole don't dispute.

But how often does MTV play stuff from their early albums. the most they play anything by the foo fighters is probably a few times a year.

To matious:
Chris Cornell is freaking awesome
no i saw "best of you" like 8 times a day when it first sprung up..

Raine 01-12-2007 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by matious (Post 324602)
no i saw "best of you" like 8 times a day when it first sprung up..
yeah but that was when it was first came out.
MTV usually plays commercial artists and hits like Best of You for a few weeks after they're released and then they'll stop.
I don't know what kind of people watch MTV regularly but I imagine not too many of them actually watch it for the music.

sleepy jack 01-12-2007 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Raine (Post 324601)
I read the rest of your post about them being radio rock which i whole don't dispute.

But how often does MTV play stuff from their early albums. the most they play anything by the foo fighters is probably a few times a year.
MTV rarely plays any earlier stuff of any band unless its part of some special. Im pretty sure The Foo Fighters last album had a hit video, and if they play old foo fighters they play Learn to Fly which is off There Is Nothing Left To Loose, and depending on how you look at it thats their 2nd or 3rd album, i'd consider that an early album.

Raine 01-12-2007 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324604)
MTV rarely plays any rock bands earlier stuff of any band unless its part of something special. Im pretty sure The Foo Fighters last album had a hit video, and if they play old foo fighters they play Learn to Fly which is off There Is Nothing Left To Loose, and depending on how you look at it thats their 2nd or 3rd album i'd consider that an early album.
Add tot his what you've said about songs off their other albums that MTV plays and you can infer that from all their albums at least one song (from each) has bene played on MTv.
and then you can further deduce that people did watch the vids for those videos and a good majority to people did like them and the Foo Fibhters would've still deserved to be on the best album list at least once.
i'd rather see them once if Oasis was mentioned twice.

sleepy jack 01-12-2007 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Raine (Post 324605)
Add tot his what you've said about songs off their other albums that MTV plays and you can infer that from all their albums at least one song (from each) has bene played on MTv.
and then you can further deduce that people did watch the vids for those videos and a good majority to people did like them and the Foo Fibhters would've still deserved to be on the best album list at least once.
i'd rather see them once if Oasis was mentioned twice.
Coherency and spelling please? I don't really understand what you're saying.

Sparky 01-12-2007 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Raine (Post 324605)
Add tot his what you've said about songs off their other albums that MTV plays and you can infer that from all their albums at least one song (from each) has bene played on MTv.
and then you can further deduce that people did watch the vids for those videos and a good majority to people did like them and the Foo Fibhters would've still deserved to be on the best album list at least once.
i'd rather see them once if Oasis was mentioned twice.
*off subject*

ever see that music video where dave grohl and jack black dress up as chicks in a sleazy motel room and going at it?

i will dave grohl that he has a great sense of humor

sleepy jack 01-12-2007 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by matious (Post 324609)
*off subject*

ever see that music video where dave grohl and jack black dress up as chicks in a sleazy motel room and going at it?

i will dave grohl that he has a great sense of humor
Pretty sure thats Learn To Fly, one of their earlier videos that never got plays. :rolleyes:

Raine 01-12-2007 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by matious (Post 324609)
*off subject*

ever see that music video where dave grohl and jack black dress up as chicks in a sleazy motel room and going at it?

i will dave grohl that he has a great sense of humor
can't argue that.

I think the vid you're talking about is Low
but I think that was edited because of content

Sparky 01-12-2007 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324610)
Pretty sure thats Learn To Fly, one of their earlier videos that never got plays. :rolleyes:
i was fixiated at jack black with make-up, so i wasn't paying much attention to the song..

sleepy jack 01-12-2007 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Raine (Post 324611)
can't argue that.

I think the vid you're talking abuot is Low
Proof its not low 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EhgVYEFaosE
Proof its not low 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learn_To_Fly

EDIT: nvm, lol @ making a video that got banned from MTV.

boo boo 01-12-2007 08:32 PM
I know, her phrasing and wording is actually worse than her spelling.

Imagine that.

Raine 01-12-2007 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324613)
Proof its not low 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EhgVYEFaosE
Proof its not low 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learn_To_Fly

EDIT: nvm
notice I said I think.

Sparky 01-12-2007 08:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324613)
Proof its not low 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EhgVYEFaosE
Proof its not low 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learn_To_Fly

EDIT: nvm
that wasn't the video i was talking about

but wow he got more then one vid with jack black, cool

sleepy jack 01-12-2007 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by matious (Post 324616)
that wasn't the video i was talking about

but wow he got more then one vid with jack black, cool
Yeah, the video was low. It got banned, I don't watch MTV/music videos much lately unless I care who it is.

Sparky 01-12-2007 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 324617)
Yeah, the video was low. It got banned, I don't watch MTV/music videos much lately unless I care who it is.
i dont watch music videos much period. If i wanna check out a video of someone these days ill just punch it in on youtube and watch some concert footage.


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