Seeing a band live (music video, cd, albums, shows, quote)

NaNaNer · 12-18-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

No? If a band sucks live that doesn't make the music on album any worse. The two abilities (writing, and having stupidly expensive gear to perform with live) are totally seperate from one another. To say a band isn't good because of their lack of presence live is pretty damn stupid. There is nothing wrong with using technology to make your music better.

I was a huge Deftones fan...I had all their albums....LOVED them..saw them live and thought "wtf" is Chino doing..they sucked...and after that I disregarded them as one of my favs bands cause the studio made them sound good..not so much "raw" talent..

Sound Devastation · 12-18-2006, 10:24 AM

i think that being a 'musician' and being an 'artist' are two different things in the music industry. To be financially successful you need to be both, and may have to compromise the first for the second.

IMO the first is far more important. after all.. im going to spend most of my time listening to music on CD in my on home. At that moment, their image/fan base/stage presence doesn't matter one bit, all i want is good music.

plus i agree with unfan. music has changed alot. obviously digital effects are often used to improve otherwise poor music, but there are hundreds of musicians out there who also use it as an instrument.. and it can take just as much talent to use well.

DearJenny · 12-18-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sound Devastation

i think that being a 'musician' and being an 'artist' are two different things in the music industry. To be financially successful you need to be both, and may have to compromise the first for the second.

I agree with that completely.

NaNaNer · 12-18-2006, 10:27 AM

I dont disagree I just think that music sounds better live and not only because of the talent level or lack there of..but because of the vibe and the atmosphere at concerts..

swim · 12-18-2006, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CityLightsLikeRain

But dont expect to be financially successful.

They don't.

Huge venues suck. Small shows kick ass because they'll actually talk to you. You can buy the album directly from them and you can punch them in the face if you want to.

DearJenny · 12-18-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

Huge venues suck. Small shows kick ass because they'll actually talk to you. You can buy the album directly from them and you can punch them in the face if you want to.

Actually I must contradict myself because I love smaller venues as well. I met Miles Beyond and Liv Kristine from Leaves' Eyes at the Blind Guardian concert at a small venue in detroit. I also met Ashes of Soma at a Michigan festival in Grand Blanc. I dont really mean to be superstars, and the bands I see live at small venues still put on AMAZING live shows.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-18-2006, 04:32 PM

I get the impression that you are talking more from a rock standpoint.
There are many bands who can only do what they do in the studio. There are many bands who don`t even think about playing live when they write their music.
I don`t think the lack of a live show takes anything away from these bands.

So no I don`t think it makes any difference to how good they are.

Merkaba · 12-19-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

So no I don`t think it makes any difference to how good they are.

If an artist never does a live show because they aren't there to do live shows than thats cool, but if you're going to be playing live then you really want to do this part well.

I reckon at least by never playing live you never give the fans much of a reason to think your a crap artist, as long as you've got the midas touch in the studio they're happy. But playing live is risky in the sense that if your not harry flash than it can be quite damaging no matter how good your albums are.

IMATOOL · 12-18-2006, 07:03 PM

Small venues are the shi! cuz you get to be up close and personal. Ive seen System of a Down, Soulfly, and Mudvayne in clubs and they were the best shows ive ever been to. Ive seen Mudvayne at larger places and its just not the same not nearly as intimate.

~~The Unfan~~ · 12-19-2006, 08:53 AM

lol @ paying to see Mudvayne twice.

12-18-2006, 10:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sound Devastation Music Addict Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 728	i think that being a 'musician' and being an 'artist' are two different things in the music industry. To be financially successful you need to be both, and may have to compromise the first for the second. IMO the first is far more important. after all.. im going to spend most of my time listening to music on CD in my on home. At that moment, their image/fan base/stage presence doesn't matter one bit, all i want is good music. plus i agree with unfan. music has changed alot. obviously digital effects are often used to improve otherwise poor music, but there are hundreds of musicians out there who also use it as an instrument.. and it can take just as much talent to use well. __________________ Out soon... AMENRA - Mass III 2xLP [stunning vinyl release of the belgian sludgecore giants epic 06 album] FALL OF EFRAFA - Owsla & Elil CD&LP [British crust/doom/post-metal band Fall of Efrafa deliver part two (Elil) on their dark conceptual trilogy. Part one (Owsla) will also be re-released for the first time in the UK] *** visit... Sound Devastation Records website**

12-18-2006, 04:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I get the impression that you are talking more from a rock standpoint. There are many bands who can only do what they do in the studio. There are many bands who don`t even think about playing live when they write their music. I don`t think the lack of a live show takes anything away from these bands. So no I don`t think it makes any difference to how good they are. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

12-18-2006, 10:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
NaNaNer Truth Seeker Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Hallway Posts: 489	I dont disagree I just think that music sounds better live and not only because of the talent level or lack there of..but because of the vibe and the atmosphere at concerts..

12-18-2006, 07:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
IMATOOL Dr.StrangeLove Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 136	Small venues are the shi! cuz you get to be up close and personal. Ive seen System of a Down, Soulfly, and Mudvayne in clubs and they were the best shows ive ever been to. Ive seen Mudvayne at larger places and its just not the same not nearly as intimate.

12-19-2006, 08:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
~~The Unfan~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Methville Posts: 2,116	lol @ paying to see Mudvayne twice.