Unpopular Music Opinions

Pet_Sounds · 10-11-2014, 02:09 PM

I think you can make just about any pop song into a punk, rock, or country song (and vice versa) simply by changing the instrumentation, vocals, and lyrics.

grindy · 10-11-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

It's a shame the first punk album wasn't P.I.L's Metal Box.

Just think of all the awful hack punk bands that would never have happened in the name of 'punk rock' that have been clogging up the world of music churning out their shitty 3 chord bollocks year after year for the last 40 years.

Not sure that would change anything.
First three-chord-songs have a mass appeal that Metal Box (great album by the way) just doesn't have.
Second the history of punk is not as linear as we are often led to believe, a lot of the more challenging music labeled as post-punk actually emerged simultaneously or even earlier than punk.

Dylstew · 10-11-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

I think you can make just about any pop song into a punk, rock, or country song (and vice versa) simply by changing the instrumentation, vocals, and lyrics.

I wondered about that once. Here's something I did with the song I just posted, I put it at the end of a review video in the endslate cause I need something to use there anyways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpL1pW2Zc2o#t=957.

Slow it down, play it in an acoustic guitar, sing an octave lower. It worked.
All that's missing is the fact that I couldn't play for ****, even if they're powerchords.

(from this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjKA8f30Fxg)

**Goofle** · 10-11-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Not sure that would change anything.
First three-chord-songs have a mass appeal that Metal Box (great album by the way) just doesn't have.
Second the history of punk is not as linear as we are often led to believe, a lot of the more challenging music labeled as post-punk actually emerged simultaneously or even earlier than punk.

Good post.

grindy · 10-11-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

I think you can make just about any pop song into a punk, rock, or country song (and vice versa) simply by changing the instrumentation, vocals, and lyrics.

Yep.
And that doesn't make those genres bad or boring or anything.
But for me personally, it makes music where the compositions aren't as easily translatable all the more fun.

The Batlord · 10-11-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I think you do have a point there... The Sex Pistols' cover of My Way also comes to mind. But still, some more noise and dissonance wouldn't hurt in my opinion.

Also I think the antagonism between punk and prog is somewhat a phenomenon constructed by music journalists. Not to say that punk was not in a way an antithesis to prog's somwhat pompous aesthetics, but for example Van der Graaf Generator and especially Peter Hammill's solo output was a big influence on punk and some of the american proto-punk was influenced by Captain Beefheart, whose music was punkish in it's rawness, but also pretty complex at times.

You should check out some no wave. Post punk that was a reaction against the more chart-targeted forms of post punk and new wave. Sounds like pretty much what you're talking about.

grindy · 10-11-2014, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You should check out some no wave. Post punk that was a reaction against the more chart-targeted forms of post punk and new wave. Sounds like pretty much what you're talking about.

Already a big fan of No Wave. Glad not to be alone.

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-11-2014, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

In fairness to the man, he stated earlier that he was posting examples of unpopular opinions. But then he said some other stuff that would contradict that.

Long live Franco tbh.

I agree. I think his opinions are quite interesting whether meant to be taken seriously or not they can make for good discussion.

I am tired of people posting what people can and can not post on a public forum like they are somebody's mama and can dictate what people say lol

Key · 10-11-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

I am tired of people posting what people can and can not post on a public forum like they are somebody's mama and can dictate what people say lol

lawl. Because we all know how well it goes when you post your opinions.

~~Soulflower~~ · 10-11-2014, 11:42 PM

Expressing an opinion and insisting someone can not post something because you don't want them to are two different things.

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