HellCell

^Confused as to which post above is supposed to be "unpopular"

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Dylstew

It's a thread called ''Unpopular music OPINIONS'', so that's to be expected.

Soulflower

Objectively, there hasn't been a pop star that has made a cultural impact or brought any innovations to music.

None of the pop stars out now have classic or iconic albums. None of the pop stars have made any significant contributions to music to be warranted a legend title or icon.

Popularity or Awards does not make someone an Icon or legend. Your music determines that and the people determines what is iconic or not, not the industry.


Every generation does not have to have a Icon or Legend and that is okay.


There has not been an Icon/legends since these stars Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, Whitney and Janet Jackson all whom contributed something in some fashion to music or music videos.

Soulflower

It is subjective but there are objective facts that can be used to support my argument if anyone cares to discuss.

All we have now are overrated and overexposed pop tarts.

Soulflower

Who?

What contributions, innovations, classic music, groundbreaking music videos/music have they made?

What have they done that has resonated with audiences?

What are their iconic performances or singles?

What songs have they made that will be played 50 years from now?

How have they significantly changed music?

Frownland

That's because becoming iconic or classic takes time. The instant classic is a rare thing, and it's usually just a term used to describe a wildly popular album that could easily fade into obscurity in the future. I also disagree on how you define icon, because that is definitely linked to popularity because people like Michael Jackson or Madonna brought little innovation to music but their status as a pop star and maintained image in the public eye gave them their pop icon status.

How could anybody answer this question, and how could you assume that this music won't be played fifty years from now?

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Janszoon

There are no new legends because performers only are viewed as legendary in retrospect. The pop stars of the 60s weren't considered legends in the 60s either.

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Soulflower

It does not take an extended amount of time for something to become a classic. There are albums that came out in 2010 and 2000 that I would call a classic today.

What makes something iconic is the groundbreaking impact. This can take place at any time.

When Michael Jackson did the Moonwalk for the first time on Motown 25, that was Iconic even then during its time.

The NEXT day after that special, people called it Iconic even back then.

The white glove, the white socks, the black loafers, the fedora, the glitter jacket, the moonwalk, the kick, etc its all Iconic because of that one moment where we witnessed that iconic performance that defined him as a solo artist seperate from his brothers.

When an event, album or song can reasonates with audiences at a certain period and defines a certain era of music/time, it is iconic.




I disagree

There are albums and songs that are not as wildly known that are still consider "classics".

Classics are simply "timeless" songs. Timeless in meaning, they can still play on a contemporary/modern radio and people will still enjoy it. These are songs that don't sound like the era they were created and could easily play on a contemporary radio and still be enjoyed by contemporary music listerners.

There are ton of songs that have been instant classics.


That is not necessarily true.


Just because a singer is a pop star does not automatically make them an "Icon"

An Icon is an artist who has made iconic albums, performances, events etc. Once again, it has nothing to do with popularity specifically and more so to do with the impact a product or event has made on audiences. The significance of the impact and how it affects audiences is what makes an artist iconic, or a song iconic, a music video iconic or an "iconic moment". The song, event, performance etc defines the artist based off that impact.




Come on boo, you know this is straight B.S.

You playing right???



Because the songs are generic and have no lasting impact.

There is no timeless or classic component to how these pop songs are created today. The songs out today are similiar to fast food. They are only good for quick popular hits of today but they have no lasting impact.

Goofle

JT, Gaga, Beyonce and Pharrell to name a few.

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Frownland

I don't see this as being any different from Lady Gaga's antics. Looks like we pegged down one modern icon.

I know you have the biggest hard-on for MJ on this site and that's fine. I just don't see him as having done anything innovative musically. Yeah he brought a lot to dancing and the music video industry, but his tunes are just standard pop to my ears.

Can I have a ride in your time machine to the future? It's impossible to assume that these generic songs won't have an impact because generic artists like The Beatles (by which I mean their early stuff) and Sinatra made waves on the music scene simply because of their time in the spotlight. You're really saying people aren't going to be citing Kanye West as an influence in the future because you think he had "quick hits"?

I'm sure this 2x4 of an idea has been beat over your head more times than I can count on this site, but there's always been **** in popular music. Only a few remain standing in the public's eye when the dust settles and those are the icons. Yeah, their music can be bad sometimes but tbh but I'm not going to deny that they're icons.

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