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Old 03-10-2014, 04:11 PM   #7991 (permalink)
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You choose to ignore the evolution then so be it. Instead of break dancing which young still do. There is more emphasis on different forms of dance like Krumping and foot working that young kids use to channel the negativity in their environment.
That mess on the radio and in the music videos is not hip hop sweet heart, ITS NOT!

Why do you think that is?

It has not evolved to what it was originally designed for and to do.
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:13 PM   #7992 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:17 PM   #7993 (permalink)
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That mess on the radio and in the music videos is not hip hop sweet heart, ITS NOT!

Why do you think that is?

It has not evolved to what it was originally designed for and to do.
I may have to just bow out of this discussion. You say one thing but choose to disregard other valid points.

You just circled back to basically saying that the only thing that can be recognized as Hip Hop is conscious tracks/albums.
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I may have to just bow out of this discussion. You say one thing but choose to disregard other valid points.

You just circled back to basically saying that the only thing that can be recognized as Hip Hop is conscious tracks/albums.

No I was referring to the dancing, language... everything.

It has not evolved into something good or something that accurately reflects black people.

Now it is used to degrade black people because black people do not control it anymore.

You think it has evolved on its own and I don't . I think the establishment took it and purposely used it to degrade black people because Hip Hop was originally created as a back lash/outlet against Western ideals/Anglo Saxon People.

It did not just "evolve". It is much deeper than that. If you care not to discuss anymore thats fine.
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:25 PM   #7997 (permalink)
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No I was referring to the dancing, language... everything.

It has not evolved into something good or something that accurately reflects black people.

Now it is used to degrade black people because black people do not control it anymore.

You think it has evolved on its own and I don't . I think the establishment took it and purposely used it to degrade black people because Hip Hop was originally created as a back lash/outlet against Western ideals/Anglo Saxon People.

It did not just "evolve". It is much deeper than that. If you care not to discuss anymore thats fine.
Look up the Wikipedia entry for Krumping and watch the documentary Rize then get back to me.
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Look up the Wikipedia entry for Krumping and watch the documentary Rize then get back to me.

Interesting... Ive seen that documentary and know what Krump dancing is.

This is broader than that though

Um, you don't think black people/culture is being unfairly exploited in mainstream Hip Hop?
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