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Old 03-10-2014, 11:58 AM   #7961 (permalink)
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I don't expect for you to "get it" so it is okay.
There was nothing to get. I questioned whether rap was designed to make white people comfortable, and you responded by questioning whether I believe white cops should be allowed to beat black people.

Here, I'll break the Da Vinci code for you, I was mocking you by questioning acceptability of stereotypes that have nothing to do with the actual question involved, which is exactly how you responded to me. Funny how you didn't "get it".
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:05 PM   #7962 (permalink)
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YES, raped. It is a bold word but I am using it because that is the severity of what has happened. Like I said Hip Hop was much more than a genre, it was a culture that has been pretty much destroyed and continues to destroy the black community as we speak.

Color blind is pretending to ignore race and acting as if race or ethnicity has no meaning. So it is pretty much ignoring cultural and ethnic differences. It is not taking into consideration that cultural differences exist and those differences influences perspectives and experiences that will differ for someone of a different ethnic.

Racism is creating a ignorant superiority negative attitude or overt action against someone because their ethnicity/race is different from theres. It is deep seeded hatred against someone because of a different race or skin tone.

Yea they are different. Racism is acknowledging those differences and making a decision not to like people based off those differences. Color blindness is ignoring those differences all together.

That's bull**** baby. I am sorry but it is. Color blindness implies that one can not see color. Therefore you wouldn't be able to ignore, that which you cannot see. And some people are truly cut like that, just look at back catalog of their ex's and you will see... So to them race truly isn't an issue.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:05 PM   #7963 (permalink)
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Good job at ignoring why Travyon went to the grocery store in the first place, realtalk. He wasn't just "buying Skittles", lol. Whilst it has no bearing on Zimmerman's actions in one way or another, its pretty annoying seeing people like you talk as if Travyon was some nice 17-year old kid who wouldn't hurt a fly or do anything REMOTELY illegal or suspect. Nobody deserves to die the way he did, but he made a stupid move by initiating an altercation when he should have just kept walking home. Or are you the sort of person who will jump on someone and brain them to death with a rock because you "think" they were following you?

On another note, its already been established that Travyon bragged about his "purple drank" on his Facebook page on numerous occasions and showed that stuff off at every opportunity, which under normal circumstances would have gotten him arrested: the fact he's been canonized in some corners of the African-American community is just as "bad" as Zimmerman being made out to be the Anti-Christ. Both of them are equally responsible for what happened. It's a sad, sad situation on all sides that's been blown so far into the stratosphere by the media that you just can't help but laugh about it.

And to get back on topic here...I think Rick Ross is a genius.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:10 PM   #7964 (permalink)
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The person you talk to you on the phone has no control over the situation.
Huh?


He CALLED the POLICE.

Zimmerman is NOT the Police.


The POLICE told him to NOT GET OUT THE CAR...and Zimmerman did it anyway

I think it this particular context Zimmerman should have listened to the police.

He did not and VIOLATED what the police told him NOT to do, PERIOD!

He should have stayed his punk behind in the car instead of trying to prove his masculinity by instigating that young man.




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Trayvon Martin was a punk ass kid,
Ignorant comment and I hope you do not really think this way because based on your posts here you seem really intelligent.

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and I think it's highly unlikely that your story about him just walking about, minding his own business, was true.
Um, did you watch the trial? LOL


He was walking home from a grocery store. The only thing in his pockets was skittles. He was talking on the phone with his female friend and he told her he was being followed by Zimmerman and he did not know why. He was scared because he thought Zimmerman was going to attack him.





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If it was, then why did he react with such extreme violence?

Maybe because he was walking home minding his business and all of a sudden a random stranger comes up on him.

He was defending himself.


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He was beating the piss out of Zimmerman for some reason, right?

Zimmerman had no business out his car after the police told him NOT to get out.

He INSTIGATED that altercation.

Do you comprehend that?

He should have left Trayvon alone and kept it moving. Like I said, any young man would have reacted the same way.




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At that point, Zimmerman has the right to defend himself, because there's a chance he could have been killed.
How so when the only thing Trayvon had on him was candy?

Once again if he did not want to risk that he should have waited for the police like the police instructed him to do.

He disobeyed the police and at that point it really does not matter what he did in his "defense" because he clearly wanted to fight/confront Trayvon which is why he got out of his car anyway despite what the police instructed him not to do.


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It's called reality, you don't wait and hope someone lets up on you, it doesn't matter if you were perceived as the one who instigated the fight

What!?


HUH!?


Zimmerman was in his VEHICLE. He could have DROVE AWAY LOL Trayvon did not have him a gun point. Trayvon was not following him. Travyon was not instigating him to get out of the car.

So this is null and void and does not make sense.

Zimmerman was WRONG!



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, you make sure you're still breathing. That means if he's beating your ass to a pulp, and you have a gun, you shoot that ****er until he stops hitting you. If he's fleeing the scene after he's beaten your ass, and you can still move, you let him go.

Then next time his racist punk behind should stay in the car and follow the LAW/POLICE and not take it upon himself to take matters in his own hands when the POLICE instructed him not to.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:13 PM   #7965 (permalink)
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Let's bring this back to being a discussion about music please.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:24 PM   #7966 (permalink)
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That's bull**** baby. I am sorry but it is. Color blindness implies that one can not see color. Therefore you wouldn't be able to ignore, that which you cannot see. And some people are truly cut like that, just look at back catalog of their ex's and you will see... So to them race truly isn't an issue.
Oh brother! The whole color blind thing and "oh I don't see color is just as problematic and real broke down exactly why. It chooses to ignore different cultures.


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When did I say that Hip Hop does not have dance music?

I don't think I ever implied that. Hip Hop has many sub genres within it as well.I just said that the genre OVERALL was originally created and used as an outlet for black youth and African Americans because of the way the system was treating them. Hip Hop is more than a genre. It is almost a culture within itself and way of life. Break dancing, beat boxing, clothing, music, movement etc is all apart of that.
You heavily implied that listening to REAL hip hop is basically only hip hop that covers policitical issues that's why I brought up conscious hip hop. Hip Hop history wasn't created on only conscious songs and political issues.


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This is not about conscious hip hop. This is about the history of Hip Hop and how it was created.

Hip Hop was created on the struggles and tribulations of African Americans. Conscious hip hop music or not it was all constructed based on that reason.
The hip hop in parties and clubs was not created that way. What struggles and tribulations were being described in Rapper's Delight?
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:27 PM   #7967 (permalink)
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Lets revisit something, since I listened to it again recently...

Good Kid Mad City is an average album. On par with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:30 PM   #7968 (permalink)
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Good Kid Mad City is an average album. On par with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
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Good Kid Mad City is an average album. On par with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
Do you feel like it is average compared to the other mainstream releases around the same time?
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:31 PM   #7970 (permalink)
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Good Kid Mad City is an average album. On par with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
With you on this one, but I'd rate GKMC slightly higher than My Beautiful Dark Twisted List of Adjectives.
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