Unpopular Music Opinions

Dr_Rez · 07-05-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the monkey

radiohead is shit.

I ****ing said it. Their singer can't sing, their lyrics are unengaging and their music unoriginal and stale. Jesus h christ, what is all their hype about? And i've given all of their big albums multiple tries, trying to figure it out.

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Thom Yorke · 07-05-2011, 12:57 PM

I [takes a deep breath]... disagree.

Necromancer · 07-05-2011, 02:24 PM

Santana is a unique and influential American band. Especially tracks like the long-version of Black Magic Woman. Carlos Santana has always been one of my favorite (clean sounding) guitarist. I rank him with other guitarist like Tom Scholz (Boston) and Journey's guitarist Neal Schon. Being that Journey was started by former members of Santana could have a lot to do with them having similar dynamics on guitar.

Unknown Soldier · 07-05-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

I will name a few off the top of my head. Without goggling for the answer! My first two would be The Beach Boys & The Byrds as being important bands to note, although Steely Dan (jazz rock) is #1. Aerosmith played a major role in the 70s with their blues/rock style. Of course Jimi Hendrix, although he had to go to England first before making his appearance at the Monterey festival in '67 which launched his career. There are a lot of bands and artist I'm missing out on mentioning so holding that into account..
To be honest, I really don't label bands or artist as being British, American, or whatever their ethnic origin may be. Music belongs to everybody and not just one certain fan base. Setting boundaries should be left to the musicians and songwriters. I mean Keith Richard is mainly influenced by Chuck Berry? That doesn't make his style American based to any major extent.
I see time after time, certain suggestions like origin, image, media statistics, record sales, and so on, mentioned when someone is rating a band. When none of it has anything to do with the actual music itself in most cases. If I want to listen to a more progressive and sophisticated style, I would throw on some YES or Steely Dan. (Here is one for debate), I always liked the Police and some of Sting's solo work if I wanted a more articular style of "rock" music. The fact remains that British bands have dominated rock music since the British invasion in the 60s. In my opinion American bands of recent years have catered more toward the Metal genre and its sub-genres? Blah, blah..

I kind of got the reponse I was expecting about most revered American bands, its far less conclusive than their British counterparts with a whole list of bands being mentioned. For example, the Beatles and the Stones could equally be substituted with the Who and Led Zeppelin etc and still seem like obvious choices.

I also think that location of the band to be very important as well, especially in regards to American bands. East Coast was very distinct to West Coast especially in the 1960`s and 1970`s, then there is distinct sound of music from the southern states and also from the mid west etc. This has always been something I`ve usually picked up on American bands and for that reason made them more interesting for me. Here music is really just centred around the three main cities of London, Birmingham and Manchester and a lot of the time the bands have a less distinctive regional identity.

Yes v Steely Dan!!! I`d call Steely Dan sophisticated in the obvious context of the word but as for Yes........!

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Originally Posted by Jack Pat

Being the fanboy that I am, I'll go ahead and throw The Velvet Underground out there as a "revered" American band. In my opinion, they are one of the most important American rock bands from the 60s. Then, of course, there is The Doors...

The Doors and Velvet Underground are always going to be good and obvious choices.

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

The Doors, I really noticed the vocal influence and persona of Jim Morrison in the early '90s with the grunge era. Certain sources in the media has suggested that Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam as an artist that shows a lot of influence by Morrison.

Here is a single I ran accross a couple of years back I think shows Morrison's influence.

For that exact reason he was chosen as part of the Doors tribute tour a number of years back. Most of the groups of the grunge era had obvious influences drawn from the Doors, Led Zeppelin, Iggy Pop and the Beatles to name just a few.

Unknown Soldier · 07-05-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

Santana is a unique and influential American band. Especially tracks like the long-version of Black Magic Woman. Carlos Santana has always been one of my favorite (clean sounding) guitarist. I rank him with other guitarist like Tom Scholz (Boston) and Journey's guitarist Neal Schon. Being that Journey was started by former members of Santana could have a lot to do with them having similar dynamics on guitar.

I love Carlos Santana as a guitarist especially in his heyday and watching him on Woodstock with Mike Shrieve on drums is the stuff of legend.

As a huge Boston fan I`ve always loved Tom Scholz, especially when Brad Delp was on vocals in that group

I saw Journey on their last European tour and Neil Schon made it look so easy, easily one of my favourite guitarists and have always considered him along with Steve Lukather the cream of AOR guitarists

Necromancer · 07-05-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I'd call Steely Dan sophisticated in the obvious context of the word but as for Yes........!

I admit, Yes's music seems a little more "bubblegum" sounding these days. But in the 70s fans owned most every album out by Yes and all of the solo albums as well, like Rick Wakemans-Journey To The Center Of The Earth, Jon Anderson's material, Steve Howe, and not to mention Chis Squire. Especially a lot of musicians it seemed.
Yes was not labeled "Classic Rock" in its day, but was instead considered "Classical Rock". Rock music had progressed and become some of the best Technical Rock ever produced in the industry. And it didn't get any more perfectly exhibited. I always considered that era of rock with other bands included like Rush for example, to be a era/era's of (rock) perfection musically.

Howard the Duck · 07-05-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thom Yorke

I [takes a deep breath]... disagree.

as do i

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-06-2011, 12:15 AM

The Sonics were an average garage band that get way too much attention and had f*ck all to do with the creation of punk and The Monks were much better anyway.

Howard the Duck · 07-06-2011, 12:16 AM

The Pretty Things' S.F. Sorrow >>>>>> Piper at the Gates of Dawn

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-06-2011, 12:17 AM

S.F. Sorrow really isn't as great as half this forum will have you believe.

07-05-2011, 02:24 PM	#6503 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Santana Santana is a unique and influential American band. Especially tracks like the long-version of Black Magic Woman. Carlos Santana has always been one of my favorite (clean sounding) guitarist. I rank him with other guitarist like Tom Scholz (Boston) and Journey's guitarist Neal Schon. Being that Journey was started by former members of Santana could have a lot to do with them having similar dynamics on guitar.

07-06-2011, 12:15 AM	#6508 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	The Sonics were an average garage band that get way too much attention and had fck all to do with the creation of punk and The Monks were much better anyway. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.*

07-06-2011, 12:17 AM	#6510 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	S.F. Sorrow really isn't as great as half this forum will have you believe. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

07-05-2011, 12:57 PM	#6502 (permalink)
Thom Yorke Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,848	I [takes a deep breath]... disagree.