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Old 06-25-2011, 09:58 PM   #6391 (permalink)
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Here's a naughty music opinion: I think Nirvana are great. I'm no fan boy but they did deserve at least part of the attention they got. I wish for Kurt's sake they didn't make it so he wouldn't have lost it (maybe?) but it was good for some of us.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:00 PM   #6392 (permalink)
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Or in other cases external factors and/or nativity on a band recording their first album means that they may end up making an album they didn't want to and will disown later on in their careers.

Such as Ministry.
that's why this is under unpopular opinions, including even al jurgensen's.
i have land of rape and honey and the '92 album, both great, but i prefer with sympathy. just listen to this


YouTube - ‪Work For Love - Ministry‬‏
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:11 PM   #6393 (permalink)
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I'm inclined to disagree that the debut album is typically the best. In the instance of every artist with a substantial discography that I think of, it's not.
Well, what I said I didn't mean it as an unpopular opinion and had no prior knowledge of how what I said would be receive, and if I was going to fabricate an unpopular opinion I would had gone into length of what it was and worked out all the holes. How I meant "the best" was to be used as a compliment, I wasn't dubbing something as "the ultimate greatest" over anything else. Some people often say something like after eating a Tiramisu, it was the best they ever ate, but they don't mean it's the all time greatest over all other deserts past/present/future and they'll never eat another desert as good or ever use that expression again, it's just that the Tiramisu was the thoroughly enjoyable - the best. [shrug]

It's obvious that for many bands their debut album wasn't their most popular as far as albums sales or, critical review. And for most bands it's a slow climb to the top and once they arrive they had developed their sound and that becomes their signature sound, and anything that goes further back in their career becomes more undeveloped for some fans, but just because it's that way for some fans doesn't mean there isn't other fans where the earlier material was better. Having something as number one on the Pop chart isn't gauge for intrinsic artistic value of the song but a statistic for that popularity at a specific time the information was gathered.

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I think that if you explored RYM's discographies, you would find that the popular opinions also favour my view that the first album has seldom been the best.
But Murmur was a great REM album, and I thoroughly enjoyed it and the IRS years were good productive years for REM, and I think because Green (Warner Bros.) was like their break through album for many that becomes their first introductory album they liked and then proceed to accumulate the rest of the REM discography, I see many fans site that as the first introductory album and for them their favorite/best.

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Or in other cases external factors and/or nativity on a band recording their first album means that they may end up making an album they didn't want to and will disown later on in their careers.

Such as Ministry.
What is strange is that quote sounds like it's from a music critic with a quote from a member of the band and that is the opposite sediment of a Ministry fan (the youtube poster), and Ron was speaking as a fan so I thought his opinion seemed like it reflected the opinion of other fans, whether he was or not I don't quite know. It's all subjective anyway - what a band thinks they are doing and how fans receive it. In consideration of those two quotes all they reveal is that fans and band members see things differently.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:13 PM   #6394 (permalink)
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another great track from ministry before they became moronic metalheads
YouTube - ‪I Wanted To Tell Her (I Needed To Tell Her)‬‏
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Old 06-26-2011, 01:26 AM   #6395 (permalink)
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another great track from ministry before they became moronic metalheads
YouTube - ‪I Wanted To Tell Her (I Needed To Tell Her)‬‏
Learn to use f*cking YouTube tags for Christ's sake. And I mean that literally, you are killing Jesus every time you post an improper link.
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Old 06-26-2011, 02:23 AM   #6396 (permalink)
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The first album is often one of the most important by a group or singer at least, assuming of course that they have settled on their style from the start.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:53 AM   #6397 (permalink)
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Load and Reload were decent albums. Now THAT is an unpopular opinion.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:54 AM   #6398 (permalink)
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Unpopular Music Opinion:

Those contestants from singing competitions who did not won prove to be more successful in the music scene than those who actually really won.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:55 AM   #6399 (permalink)
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That's actually quite true.
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Old 06-26-2011, 06:31 AM   #6400 (permalink)
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Chris Daughtry is the best alumnus that American Idol has ever produced.
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Kelly Clarkson
Carrie Underwood THEN

Daughtry and his band.
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