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Old 05-15-2011, 03:37 AM   #5711 (permalink)
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Personally I prefer A Perfect Circle though, epecially "Thirteenth Step".
I think APC is ok, but I personally don't think it holds a candle to Tool. It most certainly is more accessible, but not as fulfilling, personally.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:51 AM   #5712 (permalink)
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I view APC and Tool as two sides to Maynards personality. Tool representing the more dark nature, while APC is more the light nature.

I think it is like the yin and the yang of Maynard. Both are equally great, just in different ways.

Tool leaves me feeling more bleak and down, while APC leaves me feeling a little bit more hopeful.

"Mer de Noms" and "Thirteenth Step" are both great. the other one was meh.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:54 AM   #5713 (permalink)
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personally this will always be my favorite thing Maynard has done:
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Old 05-15-2011, 04:17 AM   #5714 (permalink)
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I view APC and Tool as two sides to Maynards personality. Tool representing the more dark nature, while APC is more the light nature.

I think it is like the yin and the yang of Maynard. Both are equally great, just in different ways.

Tool leaves me feeling more bleak and down, while APC leaves me feeling a little bit more hopeful.

"Mer de Noms" and "Thirteenth Step" are both great. the other one was meh.
I personally don't view either Tool, or APC as a Maynard construction at all. I give far more credence to the musicians involved than Maynard's contributions. I don't see the band(s) as Maynard. I see them as bands with Maynard attending.
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Old 05-15-2011, 04:23 AM   #5715 (permalink)
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haven't heard much APC to form an opinion

but got all Tool
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:36 AM   #5716 (permalink)
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Or you can blame Black Sabbath for inventing the genre which was renamed 'metal', 'stoner rock', 'doom rock', and 'grunge' depending on the time period, and location. Or, in Nirvana's case, you can call it 'Melvins'.

Calling 'Red' A grunge song is ridiculous, anyway. The only similarity is the fact it uses distorted guitar.
Yeah, and I was sincerely serious. Of course KC didn't invent grunge. Yes did. With "Machine messiah".
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:40 AM   #5717 (permalink)
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anybody who thinks he's crap, should listen to the Berlin trilogy, Ziggy Stardust, Hunky Dory and Station to Station.
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:10 AM   #5718 (permalink)
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It is just mostly cheesy to me, I do not relate to it. When I think of bands like Yes, Genesis, ELP and ELO for example, i just find it incredibly boring, cheesy and over indulgent. Too calculated and boring.

I prefer my rock to be more raw, and relatable.

I would like to hear some examples of the rock you are talking about though..

I like music that is usually more simplistic, raw and down home feel.

Overall as I say, most prog is just too cheesy to me, with a few exceptions which I named.

Aqualung is a case of an album I think is well written and well performed, I like Jethro Tull. I like some King Crimson... but the majority of the rest to me is awful.
See, here's the problem. Prog isn't cheesy nor is it laughable, you just don't like it. However, you don't really stand on solid enough ground to label it as 'laughable'.

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Same. The Clash can express more with 3 chords than Yes can with 20.
Well, if the expression is the cure to insomnia then yes. Besides, the prog world goes way deeper than Yes. Biggest problem with prog is that the most dull prog(Yes, Genesis) bands are the ones that get the most acclaim. Doesn't stop prog, or the concept of progressive rock from being solid.

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While I agree with your statement about progressive rock, I hope that the part I bolded isn't an attack on punk rock...
I'm thinking more 'Motley Crue'. I rarely know punk to sing about sluts.
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Biggest problem with prog is that the most dull prog(Yes, Genesis) bands are the ones that get the most acclaim. Doesn't stop prog, or the concept of progressive rock from being solid.
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I'm serious, man. I really don't feel that Yes is that particularly impressive. They're so middle of the road. Genesis is just eh...

I think Mahavisnhu Orchestra, Gentle Giant, Gong, Magma, Can, Soft Machine, King Crimson, etc. Are vastly superior bands.
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