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Old 05-14-2011, 11:50 AM   #5661 (permalink)
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It's funny because you think that by covering one of V.U.'s, Nirvana gave them more popularity and attention. We're talking about the band who created so many genres and has had influence over so many others. A band that is FAR more important than Nirvana. What gave V.U. more attention was the popularity of Lou Reed's solo work and other bands' constant citations as them being a musical influence (Sonic Youth, Pavement, and many others).
The only reason VU are far more influential than Nirvana, is because they were around some 20 years before Nirvana were ever thought of. To make a fair comparison, you need to take a band from around the same era as Nirvana.

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But it was Nirvana's cover of VU that I personally knew them from.
Diamond Head one of the best bands to have ever come out of the UK, finally got some of the recognition that they deserved due to Metallica covering their songs and the amount of bands that have covered VU material is endless.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:51 AM   #5662 (permalink)
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I'm not sure about that. I knew about Velvet Underground before I knew Nirvana, and that in godforsaken Serbia. I don't even have to mention David Bowie.
I... think Bowie is overrated.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:00 PM   #5663 (permalink)
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I... think Bowie is overrated.
Before Nirvana covered his song or after?
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:06 PM   #5664 (permalink)
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Nirvana were not spectacular in any way, shape, or form. It's not snobbery to call them overrated, it's logic.
Hey I totally agree with you.

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What are you talking about? Anyone who listens to the Velvet Underground knows how unpopular they were at the time. I'm done talking about this. It was my fault for even getting involved.
I'd say get involved and don't give up so easily. I don't know if you can say that as if The Velvet Underground went completely unnoticed because of the songs "Walk on The Wild Side" and "Sweet Jane"
did get airplay. I don't now where you would pin point the time they were totally unpopular. There are one of those cult bands that get a cult following after the fact. Probably more people talk about Television or the Buzzcocks (in the US) now then when they first came out back in the 70's. But maybe nowadays people are know/care less about U.V. now then a few years ago.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:10 PM   #5665 (permalink)
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I... think Bowie is overrated.
I don't even like his music and I can't agree with this. The man's a ****ing BAMF
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:27 PM   #5666 (permalink)
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^^what's a BAMF?

I generally have higher regard for Bowie than I used to
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:49 PM   #5667 (permalink)
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I don't even like his music and I can't agree with this. The man's a ****ing BAMF
Who s_k or Bowie?
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Old 05-14-2011, 01:00 PM   #5668 (permalink)
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I believe BAMF would be bad ass mother f*cker.

Though his remarks on facism and Eric Capton's remarks on immigration were what spawned the creation of "Rock Against Racism".
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Old 05-14-2011, 01:09 PM   #5669 (permalink)
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I'd say get involved and don't give up so easily. I don't know if you can say that as if The Velvet Underground went completely unnoticed because of the songs "Walk on The Wild Side" and "Sweet Jane"
did get airplay. I don't now where you would pin point the time they were totally unpopular. There are one of those cult bands that get a cult following after the fact. Probably more people talk about Television or the Buzzcocks (in the US) now then when they first came out back in the 70's. But maybe nowadays people are know/care less about U.V. now then a few years ago.
"Walk on the Wild Side" is a track from Lou Reed's solo album, Transformer. It's not a V.U. song.

Also, I was referring to the time period when they released their debut album (which was in 1967). The Velvet Underground & Nico only peaked at #171 on the Billboard album charts. There's even a famous quote by Brian Eno which says how the album sold poorly, but everyone who bought one made a band. The 60's weren't all that good to them in terms of media exposure.

By the way, when did "Sweet Jane" ever get airplay?
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I haven't heard a whole lot by The Who, but I don't really see myself listening to them for fun, if you will.
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