Unpopular Music Opinions

MoonlitSunshine · 12-14-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshMartin321

I can take your viewpoint. I can agree, lyrics should be secondary to the music. Great lyrics is a bonus, but the music must come first. I can accept this viewpoint because I had a lot of friends growing up who listened to awful punk music, which sounded like a horrid mess, but it was justified because of the powerful political lyrics behind it (if you could make them out).

I hated the music, so I didn't care what the lyrics were about, I used to preach that if they were so bothered about the lyrics why didn't they read poetry while listening to decent music! But with Leonard Cohen I'm sorry I do enjoy just listening to hear the words and relax. It's like having poetry read to you.

...case and point, really. it's not Music, it's poetry. Some of his stuff is fantastic, from that respect, some of his stuff is utter trash from any respect, but you get that with any artist of any shape or form. My argument is that what he doesn't isn't and shouldn't ever really be considered music.

clutnuckle · 12-14-2010, 01:04 PM

Ah, the "this isn't music" retort... Music = not restricted to musical tones. The title of 'music' is misleading, as it encompasses many abstract forms of art that don't necessarily inherit playing any instrument. Poetry is one of them. Many artists have been, for decades, using spoken word passages in their music. It's an entirely new way of surprising and intriguing the listener. Throwing in elements other than melodic sounds, deliberate cacophony, finding new ways to surprise and intrigue people...

Though that argument should not come into play here, considering Cohen DOES have music in his compositions... So what if his lyrics overshadow the music? Of course his lyrics are fantastic; he's a poet. Though he integrates his musical pursuits into his works seamlessly. Without the lonely guitar part in "Famous Blue Raincoat", his words wouldn't sound nearly as painful or meaningful. His voice is both a vehicle for words and a way to excrete emotion. His work is a combination of tortured language and lonely music that fits the picture, if you will. The musical part is an embellishment on the words, to give them mood and power, and even though it's usually the other way around, it works out.

s_k · 12-15-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

I like Sublime a lot...

Is that unpopular?
Sublime is ****ing brilliant man

~~James~~ · 01-25-2011, 11:36 AM

Sunn O))))) can't drone for **** compared to Windy And Carl.

dankrsta · 01-25-2011, 12:08 PM

^Ha...Windy & Carl are ****ing awesome

clutnuckle · 01-25-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Sunn O))))) can't drone for **** compared to Windy And Carl.

YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES. YES.

That is how it's done. I don't dislike Sunn O))) or anything but Windy & Carl take you places.

~~James~~ · 01-25-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle

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The best Drone I have hard for sure. Criminally underlooked.

The Abominable Homan · 01-25-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by James

Sunn O))))) can't drone for **** compared to Windy And Carl.

Well... you've given me something to look into, thanks.

The one thing that comes to mind for me is I don't like The Velvet Underground much at all. I'm not really sure what I'm missing there, but I've tried 3 albums and found all of them pretty uninteresting.

Howard the Duck · 02-14-2011, 07:03 AM

i think i'm an idiot savant singer/songwriter/guitarist/keyboardist

some people think i sound like a cross between Cartman and Kermit the Frog when I sing, and my guitaring sounds like someone handed a chimpanzee a guitar

Queen Boo · 02-15-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

i think i'm an idiot savant singer/songwriter/guitarist/keyboardist

some people think i sound like a cross between Cartman and Kermit the Frog when I sing, and my guitaring sounds like someone handed a chimpanzee a guitar

Go into punk music. You'd be great.

01-25-2011, 12:08 PM	#5055 (permalink)
dankrsta ... Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,776	^Ha...Windy & Carl are ****ing awesome __________________ Last.fm

12-14-2010, 01:04 PM	#5052 (permalink)
clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	Ah, the "this isn't music" retort... Music = not restricted to musical tones. The title of 'music' is misleading, as it encompasses many abstract forms of art that don't necessarily inherit playing any instrument. Poetry is one of them. Many artists have been, for decades, using spoken word passages in their music. It's an entirely new way of surprising and intriguing the listener. Throwing in elements other than melodic sounds, deliberate cacophony, finding new ways to surprise and intrigue people... Though that argument should not come into play here, considering Cohen DOES have music in his compositions... So what if his lyrics overshadow the music? Of course his lyrics are fantastic; he's a poet. Though he integrates his musical pursuits into his works seamlessly. Without the lonely guitar part in "Famous Blue Raincoat", his words wouldn't sound nearly as painful or meaningful. His voice is both a vehicle for words and a way to excrete emotion. His work is a combination of tortured language and lonely music that fits the picture, if you will. The musical part is an embellishment on the words, to give them mood and power, and even though it's usually the other way around, it works out.

01-25-2011, 11:36 AM	#5054 (permalink)
~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	Sunn O))))) can't drone for **** compared to Windy And Carl.

02-14-2011, 07:03 AM	#5059 (permalink)
Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	i think i'm an idiot savant singer/songwriter/guitarist/keyboardist some people think i sound like a cross between Cartman and Kermit the Frog when I sing, and my guitaring sounds like someone handed a chimpanzee a guitar