Unpopular Music Opinions

LoathsomePete · 11-02-2010, 07:40 PM

I'd say get Candlemass first, that album is intense and captivating and probably one of the best doom metal albums. If you enjoy those three then we'll see how you feel about Stoner metal, you don't have to be a pothead to enjoy it, but it helps.

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and on that note 3,420 posts... dude.

duga · 11-02-2010, 07:48 PM

Yeah, Opeth is probably the best band to start with if you want to get used to the growl. He sings just as much (if not more) than growls, and when he busts that out it usually takes the song to another level. It definitely helped me appreciate it.

I loved metal in high school, but sadly that included the horrendous nu metal fad. It fell out of my favor and only in the past year or so have I been getting back into it. I have a big thing for music that creates a lot of atmosphere, so black metal definitely gets it for me.

I always show fans of all types of music these guys:

The most Asian metal band you will ever listen to, I promise. Their progressions and overall style is covered with distortion, obviously, but if you listen closely and have some familiarity with Asian music it is clearly VERY Asian. Not to mention the erhu. I love it.

This song shows off the erhu:

How can you not respect a metal band that can pull this off:

slorgasms · 11-02-2010, 09:26 PM

nickleback is def. worse than interpol

sidewinder · 11-03-2010, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by slorgasms

nickleback is def. worse than interpol

Hate to break it to ya, but that's likely a fairly popular opinion.

Mojo · 11-03-2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

Thanks Pete, I'll definitely give them a listen after this album.
I hope Doom Metal is my thing, the description given sounds like it should be good.
Would you recommend starting with a particular one, or doesn't it matter?
I'll definitely get round to listening to all three, but only one tonight. I'll listen to the other 2 tomorrow. If not, I'll just start from the top.

I tried to suggest a couple of doom albums to you a while ago, as you said Black Sabbath was your favourite metal band, and I don't think you liked them. I recommended Pentagram's first album and I forget what the other one was now.

Hopefully you get on well with those three. Doom is my favourite metal subgenre.

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

I'd say get Candlemass first, that album is intense and captivating and probably one of the best doom metal albums. If you enjoy those three then we'll see how you feel about Stoner metal, you don't have to be a pothead to enjoy it, but it helps.

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and on that note 3,420 posts... dude.

The vocals can sometimes rub certain people the wrong way i feel, when it comes to Candlemass. But I do like that album, it's a good starting point for sure.

And I can vouch for being able to love stoner rock/metal without being a stoner, as i dont smoke. The weed may enhance the experience (i would assume) but it's definitely not necessary.

Percy Thrillington · 11-03-2010, 07:20 AM

In an attempt to try and explain what it is i dont like about metal Ive found two bands that i do like that are metal bands, sounds abit skuwift i know but i do have a point.

Its the production on a massive amount of metal music that turns me off, the screamy and growly vocals do nothing for me most of the time, the drums often sound so over produced and the amount of guitar over dubs some metal bands use is a bit ridiculous. The end result is often a very very over produced track, sometimes a perfectly good song, ruined by production. I know this happens in all genres but it does seem more common in metal, why?

Sooooo.... heres a couple of tracks that are metal that i dont think are over produced and sound great for it.

I hope this helps a bit.

**Janszoon** · 11-03-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Percy Thrillington

Sooooo.... heres a couple of tracks that are metal that i dont think are over produced and sound great for it.

Gotcha. I don't think "overproduced" is the term you're looking for though. I think you mean "clean" because truly a lot of production effort does go into making a track sound dirty, raw and heavy like, particularly, the Alabama Thunderpussy song.

Judging by the fact that you like these two songs you might find there's actually a lot of metal you like, it's just more on the stoner/doom end of things.

TheCunningStunt · 11-03-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

I tried to suggest a couple of doom albums to you a while ago, as you said Black Sabbath was your favourite metal band, and I don't think you liked them. I recommended Pentagram's first album and I forget what the other one was now.

Hopefully you get on well with those three. Doom is my favourite metal subgenre.

I don't think I disliked them as such, I just don't think they grabbed me and kept my attention.

When it comes to Metal I find myself drifting in and out of albums. I'll give Pentagram's first album another couple of listens.
I still have 2 of Loathsome's album recs to listen to. It's obviously not a bad genre, I'm just having a hard time finding something I really like. I do have a few Metal albums, but not nearly enough.

Mojo · 11-03-2010, 09:51 AM

^Well, i'm not complaining that you didn't like them or anything, just saying that I tried to set you off down this road before and I don't think it was too successful. I figured that more traditional doom might be more your kind of thing. It still might be. let us know how the albums go down.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Gotcha. I don't think "overproduced" is the term you're looking for though. I think you mean "clean" because truly a lot of production effort does go into making a track sound dirty, raw and heavy like, particularly, the Alabama Thunderpussy song.

Judging by the fact that you like these two songs you might find there's actually a lot of metal you like, it's just more on the stoner/doom end of things.

Thats the conclusion I came to as well. So you like dirty, raw metal with a tendency towards to cleaner vocals rather than guttural? Stoner rock and doom is probably your friend then, in that case.

But thanks for finally, finally, taking the time to explain yourself and put together a decent post. If you had done that a long time ago then we would know what the hell you were talking about!

TheCunningStunt · 11-03-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

^Well, i'm not complaining that you didn't like them or anything, just saying that I tried to set you off down this road before and I don't think it was too successful. I figured that more traditional doom might be more your kind of thing. It still might be. let us know how the albums go down.

I always revisit music, even if it was unsuccessful months ago - I'm always willing to give it another listen. A few of my favourite albums have become favourites because I didn't just forget about them, I re-listened. Maybe my search will be unfruitful again, but I can only try. I have 4 albums on my list now.

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11-02-2010, 07:48 PM	#4742 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	Yeah, Opeth is probably the best band to start with if you want to get used to the growl. He sings just as much (if not more) than growls, and when he busts that out it usually takes the song to another level. It definitely helped me appreciate it. I loved metal in high school, but sadly that included the horrendous nu metal fad. It fell out of my favor and only in the past year or so have I been getting back into it. I have a big thing for music that creates a lot of atmosphere, so black metal definitely gets it for me. I always show fans of all types of music these guys: The most Asian metal band you will ever listen to, I promise. Their progressions and overall style is covered with distortion, obviously, but if you listen closely and have some familiarity with Asian music it is clearly VERY Asian. Not to mention the erhu. I love it. This song shows off the erhu: How can you not respect a metal band that can pull this off: __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

11-02-2010, 09:26 PM	#4743 (permalink)
slorgasms Groupie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: center valley, pennsylvania Posts: 3	:) nickleback is def. worse than interpol

11-03-2010, 07:20 AM	#4746 (permalink)
Percy Thrillington Groupie Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 33	In an attempt to try and explain what it is i dont like about metal Ive found two bands that i do like that are metal bands, sounds abit skuwift i know but i do have a point. Its the production on a massive amount of metal music that turns me off, the screamy and growly vocals do nothing for me most of the time, the drums often sound so over produced and the amount of guitar over dubs some metal bands use is a bit ridiculous. The end result is often a very very over produced track, sometimes a perfectly good song, ruined by production. I know this happens in all genres but it does seem more common in metal, why? Sooooo.... heres a couple of tracks that are metal that i dont think are over produced and sound great for it. I hope this helps a bit.