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Old 08-05-2010, 11:25 AM   #3871 (permalink)
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But he had the pelvis...
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:31 AM   #3872 (permalink)
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Elvis was an overinflated pop star. He's influenced many great artists, but as an artist himself contributed well more to the negative hokey aspects of Rock N' Roll than the positive ones.

The main reason he even had success is that he was white, and less dorky than the other white guys at the time, and the only reason he endeared is because he did exactly as he was told.

Besides, If he wouldn't have had 99% of his hits already written for him, he would have went nowhere. I do appreciate the fact he indirectly helped break racial barriers, but he grew to be a very petty, and bitter man in his age. Much undeserving of the sheer level of attention and praise.
I feel the same way.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:34 AM   #3873 (permalink)
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Elvis was an overinflated pop star. He's influenced many great artists, but as an artist himself contributed well more to the negative hokey aspects of Rock N' Roll than the positive ones.

The main reason he even had success is that he was white, and less dorky than the other white guys at the time, and the only reason he endeared is because he did exactly as he was told.

Besides, If he wouldn't have had 99% of his hits already written for him, he would have went nowhere. I do appreciate the fact he indirectly helped break racial barriers, but he grew to be a very petty, and bitter man in his age. Much undeserving of the sheer level of attention and praise.
I agree with a lot of this, but was he really petty and bitter? I've never heard anything that would indicate that.
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:50 AM   #3874 (permalink)
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I mostly agree with that post on Elvis... I think alot of what distinguished him was mass appeal and his persona, perhaps his onstage presence. Musically he ran out of gas, so he made the switch to movies... it's a no brainer that he wasn't the greatest musical influence this world has ever seen...
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:40 PM   #3875 (permalink)
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okay, good. you just saved yourself from a post-rock fan BAAAAAAWWW fest.
To be fair, the majority of post-rock is boring as ****. Slint included.
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:43 PM   #3876 (permalink)
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To be fair, the majority of post-rock is boring as ****. Slint included.
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:35 PM   #3877 (permalink)
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You know, TCS, you could have just posted your unpopular opinion as you did in the KoL thread:

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Chilis late 90s early 00s stuff >>>>> Their 80s. Unpopular musical opinion there for ya, but then again I don't really care for the Chilis.
Because that's crazy unpopular. I assume you were speaking of Californication and By the Way, which are nowhere near Freaky Styley, Uplift Mofo, or Mother's Milk.

GravitySlips: were you only referring to recent RCHP or all of it? As a punk guy I kinda assumed you didn't mind 80s RHCP...
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:12 PM   #3878 (permalink)
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GravitySlips: were you only referring to recent RCHP or all of it? As a punk guy I kinda assumed you didn't mind 80s RHCP...
I quite like a lot of their music actually, my friend was a huge fan when we were younger so I've heard some of the 80s stuff as well. Mother's Milk was a good 'un, they definitely had a lot more bite and attitude back then and it makes for much better music than stuff like By The Way which I find dull as f*ck. In fairness I did only make that comment because I knew boo boo would say something back, the Chilis back in the day were good fun although I wasn't a massive fan even of that. Haven't heard that stuff in years though.

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To be fair, the majority of post-rock is boring as ****. Slint included.
A lot of post rock is boring, definitely. All those Godspeed/Mogwai clones bore the s*it outta me.

Slint, on the other hand, are just genius. That record (Spiderland), is a truly innovative and brilliant album. I appreciate it's not for everyone though, and I had some trouble enjoying it when I first heard it years ago too, but it turned out to be a real grower. Now I'd probably place it in my top 20 albums of all time.

What do I love about it? There's the weird spindly guitar riffs that emphasize harmonics so heavily, and all the abrupt changes in dynamics, where quiet repetitive riffs into explosive post-hardcore sections. There are subtle time signature changes that I barely noticed till I started learning their songs on drums. That drummer is amazing, a perfect compliment to what's going on around him. And the lyrics, which are so dark and surreal and loaded with imagery - apparently the band members were on the verge of mental collapse at the time of its recording which is quite enlightening. There's the weird spoken word vocals, which occasionally break into deranged shouting. All these elements combine beautifully, it's just an amazingly bleak sounding album. The way it's recorded and produced as well, it has a dark sorta atmosphere unlike anything I've heard, and certainly unlike any of the bombastic music that gets called "post rock" nowadays. No wonder it had a big impact on those who heard it when it came out, I can't think of anything made before Spiderland that sounds even remotely like it. It's a fascinating album to me. I can understand how people dislike it, but for me it's a true classic.
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Old 08-05-2010, 08:28 PM   #3879 (permalink)
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^ great review sir.
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What do I love about it? There's the weird spindly guitar riffs that emphasize harmonics so heavily, and all the abrupt changes in dynamics, where quiet repetitive riffs into explosive post-hardcore sections. There are subtle time signature changes that I barely noticed till I started learning their songs on drums. That drummer is amazing, a perfect compliment to what's going on around him. And the lyrics, which are so dark and surreal and loaded with imagery - apparently the band members were on the verge of mental collapse at the time of its recording which is quite enlightening. There's the weird spoken word vocals, which occasionally break into deranged shouting. All these elements combine beautifully, it's just an amazingly bleak sounding album. The way it's recorded and produced as well, it has a dark sorta atmosphere unlike anything I've heard, and certainly unlike any of the bombastic music that gets called "post rock" nowadays. No wonder it had a big impact on those who heard it when it came out, I can't think of anything made before Spiderland that sounds even remotely like it. It's a fascinating album to me. I can understand how people dislike it, but for me it's a true classic.
You just perfectly described why I love Slint so much.
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