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Old 06-25-2010, 06:43 PM   #3111 (permalink)
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I don't really consider Tortoise or Slint post rock.
Or Flying Saucer Attack for that matter.

They may have been an influence on it but they're nowhere near as dull & plodding Godspeed You whatever or Sigur Ros
It depends on how you define post-rock. For some people, the unconventional use of instruments is enough to satisfy their definiton. Most people consider Tortoise the pioneers of that genre, but truth be told, Godspeed and A Silver Mt. Zion may well have paved their own way independently. They don't really share any similarities other than a lack of convention and a clear cut focus on instrumentals. Swans are in a world of their own and some people call them post-rock, though I'm hesitant to even use that widely abused term...it seems to describe Godspeed, Explosions and their various spin offs more than anything.
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:48 PM   #3112 (permalink)
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:49 PM   #3113 (permalink)
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Yeah but nobody was calling them that before Godspeed you black sky mountain explosion and all that stuff existed.

And if there's one thing that irritates me it's retroactively applying genres to things before they existed.
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:53 PM   #3114 (permalink)
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Yeah, the logic that influencing a genre makes you a part of it.

Which would make Bob Dylan prog rock.
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:58 PM   #3115 (permalink)
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Yeah but nobody was calling them that before Godspeed you black sky mountain explosion and all that stuff existed.

And if there's one thing that irritates me it's retroactively applying genres to things before they existed.
I'm not sure when exactly did I first hear the term post-rock, but I am positive it was before the first Godspeed You album came out. By that time I was already aware of the term for quite some time.
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:01 PM   #3116 (permalink)
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Didn't a critic reviewing Spirit of Eden by Talk Talk first coin the term?
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It's been thrown around for years.
I can remember Stereolab being called it around 91/92
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:02 PM   #3118 (permalink)
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Yeah but nobody was calling them that before Godspeed you black sky mountain explosion and all that stuff existed.

And if there's one thing that irritates me it's retroactively applying genres to things before they existed.
A shedload of 80's guitar music has now been given a Post Punk tag even though they shared few similarities with the genre.

Post Rock as a genre is a fairly new genre but you can trace it's origins much further just the same as Post Punk.

The modern musical version of Post Rock is a cliched scene full of copycat bands I admit but using a retroactive label to include previously unclassifiable bands has been going on forever and shouldn't be used as a catch all for a band. Many bands have been unclassifiable and it takes a genre for them to be tagged with it.

Band like Interpol and The Editors have had the Post Punk label applied to them which obviously is a huge misnomer but they are not indicative of the genre at all.

As a specific genre I can see why it bores you but the scene is far more scopeful than instrumental rock bands and it just took a while for a label to be attached to theses bands.
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A shedload of 80's guitar music has now been given a Post Punk tag even though they shared few similarities with the genre.
I know and it's really annoying

The number of rubbish albums I've heard because of that....
I don't even want to count them all.
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Post rock is just prog rock for indie f@gs who fancy themselves too cool to learn what a chord progression is.
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