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SGR · 06-16-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

WTF Satchmo, no love for Batmotorfinger or Superunknown at all?

Or more importantly Down On The Upside?

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

D'arcy might not be very talented but her bass playing stood out more on Gish than any of the later material I have heard. The simple bass line to 'Bury Me' really grabs me:

I think it might have been Corgan who came up with and recorded that bass line, not sure though. Duga might be able to clarify.

SATCHMO · 06-16-2010, 03:26 PM

Naturally, I have to play the old-school card once again, and attest to the fact that I was wearing the **** out of my copy of Louder than Love months before Badmotorfinger was released. I thought it it was overproduced commercialized garbage. I quickly fell out of love with the band. Ultramega OK, Louder Than Love, and even Flower EP were all amazing, but the release of Badmotorfinger was really the watershed moment in the band's career when they truly became nothing more than another boring hanger-on to the new commercialized grunge bandwagon. I'm not saying they didn't produce any good music after that, but the raw intensity that was their trademark was gone forever.

SGR · 06-16-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Naturally, I have to play the old-school card once again, and attest to the fact that I was wearing the **** out of my copy of Louder than Love months before Badmotorfinger was released. I thought it it was overproduced commercialized garbage. I quickly fell out of love with the band. Ultramega OK, Louder Than Love, and even Flower EP were all amazing, but the release of Badmotorfinger was really the watershed moment in the band's career when they truly became nothing more than another boring hanger-on to the new commercialized grunge bandwagon. I'm not saying they didn't produce any good music after that, but the raw intensity that was their trademark was gone forever.

I don't think that the raw intensity you speak of was lost because of overproduction, but rather Soundgarden's natural progression.

I would say Alice In Chains got heavier as they progressed, Soundgarden did the opposite. You gotta listen to Superunknown if you haven't though. ****ing amazing album.

boo boo · 06-16-2010, 03:30 PM

I never got the logic of "more commercial = bad"

Like I'm sorry, Nevermind IS better than Bleach, that's just the way it is.

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

I think it might have been Corgan who came up with and recorded that bass line, not sure though.

No I'm pretty sure D'arcy did all the playing on Gish. The stuff about Billy Corgan playing all the bass is only true for Siamese Dream I think.

duga · 06-16-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Ultramega OK, Louder Than Love, and even Flower EP were all amazing, but the release of Badmotorfinger was really the watershed moment in the band's career when they truly became nothing more than another boring hanger-on to the new commercialized grunge bandwagon. I'm not saying they didn't produce any good music after that, but the raw intensity that was their trademark was gone forever.

Obviously you are entitled to your own opinion, but I just want to point out that Soundgarden were hardly commercialized grunge...Badmotorfinger was released a scant month after Nevermind and was on all the critic's list for being the album that would break out grunge, not Nevermind. A month is hardly enough time for Soundgarden to be marketed as just-another-grunge-band.

Violent & Funky · 06-16-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

No I'm pretty sure D'arcy did all the playing on Gish. The stuff about Billy Corgan playing all the bass is only true for Siamese Dream I think.

I thought so too, and if it is true it's better for it...

SGR · 06-16-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Nevermind IS better than Bleach, that's just the way it is.

Definitely true, especially when it comes to Kurts songwriting.

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Originally Posted by boo boo

No I'm pretty sure D'arcy did all the playing on Gish. The stuff about Billy Corgan playing all the bass is only true for Siamese Dream I think.

You might be right. If this is the case, D'arcy came up with several kickass bass lines on Gish.

duga · 06-16-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

You might be right. If this is the case, D'arcy came up with several kickass bass lines on Gish.

Billy still wrote most of them. He just let her actually play them on the recordings.

Violent & Funky · 06-16-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

Billy still wrote most of them. He just let her actually play them on the recordings.

I was wrong.

Well, at least he wrote the best bass lines for that album and let her play them...

SGR · 06-16-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

Billy still wrote most of them. He just let her actually play them on the recordings.

That's what I was thinking, well at least Billy let her play(and sing lead) on Gish. Billy was probably under enough stress as it was that he didn't intend to act on his well-known perfectionist attitude.

06-16-2010, 03:26 PM	#2842 (permalink)
SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	Naturally, I have to play the old-school card once again, and attest to the fact that I was wearing the **** out of my copy of Louder than Love months before Badmotorfinger was released. I thought it it was overproduced commercialized garbage. I quickly fell out of love with the band. Ultramega OK, Louder Than Love, and even Flower EP were all amazing, but the release of Badmotorfinger was really the watershed moment in the band's career when they truly became nothing more than another boring hanger-on to the new commercialized grunge bandwagon. I'm not saying they didn't produce any good music after that, but the raw intensity that was their trademark was gone forever.