Unpopular Music Opinions

Trollheart · 07-29-2022, 12:23 PM

Meh, seems to me that putting people down or disparaging them as not being as intelligent/switched-on as you because they listen to the music they like is, well, being a dick. Like others have said, let people listen to what they want to listen to. Not everyone is so deep into music as we are; some just listen to have something to dance to/on the car journey/relax to or whatever and don't really care whether it's popular or even good, or regarded as such, as long as they like it. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Vetiver · 07-29-2022, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

I don't know, man. If find it really hard to combine the concept of being a true individualist and worrying about whether some people think you like some band because it's popular. The former is something I'd associate with not caring about what some people think about some really inconsequential, superficial bull**** while the latter sounds like an insecure teenager basing their identity on being non-conformist.

So, I was right, you were twisting my words while refusing to acknowledge another side to what I said – the fact that I don’t want to be like everyone, especially the bandwagon jumpers.

All you’ve proven is that you have a beef with me, hence your derogatory remarks. Whatever…

Vetiver · 07-29-2022, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

not necessarily

a portable 4-track back in the day costs considerably less than a laptop today, was set-up right out of the box, and the recordings sound great even by todays standards

Yes, by today's wages but not back then.

Besides, 4-tracks were largely used for producing demos to shop around to labels and not always to release independently.

Vetiver · 07-29-2022, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Meh, seems to me that putting people down or disparaging them as not being as intelligent/switched-on as you because they listen to the music they like is, well, being a dick.*

" Formerly known as telling a harsh truth.

Vetiver · 07-29-2022, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

no, they were even cheaper back then on average
now they're much more scarce

Maybe second-hand but, either way, it still required saving up for one.

The Batlord · 07-29-2022, 12:37 PM

What are your top 10 artists so we can judge you?

**Frownland** · 07-29-2022, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

most people, as in those who have mommy and daddies that bought one for them

Yep, and also the massive segment of the population that comes to mind when someone says "most people".

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...ernet-use.html

It also gives you access to distribution and suffices as an instrument in itself, which cuts out those barriers. Be mad about distribution diluting the quality of readily available music all you want but your attempts to discredit these very real shifts boils down to nostalgic fart sniffing at this point.

Vetiver · 07-29-2022, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

yeah just like a laptop...and the software...and the mic and interface etc

Well, taking into account that many of these artists, back in the day, were on unemployment benefit, squatters and/or strapped for cash, comparing now and then is like apples and oranges.

I can't recall a single interview or biography where a band or artist had spontaneously purchased a 4-track. Most had to save-up for one (brand new or second-hand), while others borrowed one from a friend or contact.

Accessibility, in all respects, was far more limited back then.

Vetiver · 07-29-2022, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

there's a metric ****ton of self-released 45s from broke country dudes in the 50s and 60s too

I'm not American, so I'm not fully aware of the music industry from back then.

But I still stand by what I said about 4-tracks.

**Frownland** · 07-29-2022, 01:47 PM

I've found mass printing to be more of a diluting factor in older dollar bin records but yes it's not new. I'd say it's more apparent though.

They're also more likely to listen to it when that option's before them since they can do it without buying it.

07-29-2022, 12:23 PM	#17811 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Meh, seems to me that putting people down or disparaging them as not being as intelligent/switched-on as you because they listen to the music they like is, well, being a dick. Like others have said, let people listen to what they want to listen to. Not everyone is so deep into music as we are; some just listen to have something to dance to/on the car journey/relax to or whatever and don't really care whether it's popular or even good, or regarded as such, as long as they like it. Ain't nothing wrong with that. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

07-29-2022, 01:47 PM	#17820 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I've found mass printing to be more of a diluting factor in older dollar bin records but yes it's not new. I'd say it's more apparent though. They're also more likely to listen to it when that option's before them since they can do it without buying it. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x