Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by grindy

I have made a bit of a summary of your position using your words or slightly paraphrasing but juxtaposing aspects that in my opinion are contradictory.
I don't think my initial post was too hard to understand.
You also initially didn't say anything about my point being unclear, you just said I twisted your words.
So which is it? If i twisted your words, which aspects exactly did I misrepresent? If I somehow poorly phrased my statement, please point out what is unclear and I'll try to explain better.

Originally Posted by elphenor

you need "normies" so you can be paid as a DJ

Originally Posted by SGR

Yes, I do consider myself a big Manics fan and a lover of punk. I saw them perform the Holy Bible (which happens to be my favorite album) live during the 20th anniversary tour in Boston. I've got a signed LP copy of the Holy Bible (without Richey's signature, of course).

One thing punk music taught me growing up is that authoritarians suck, and as long people aren't hurting others, they should be left to go about their business and that the freedom to do so and to live the way you want (including consuming music how you want) should be celebrated. Part of punk's appeal is that you don't need to be some clasically trained music snob to make great music.

Originally Posted by elphenor

the Internet has lead to a scenario that's actually worse than the major label days

Originally Posted by Vetiver

But you did initially twist my words, as your ‘summary’ (especially the second half) was a complete contradiction of what I said. And that’s how I initially interpreted your original comment.

I only asked for clarification because you made it clear, in your response, that your summary is how you genuinely interpreted my posts.

So, yes, until you actually spell things out, instead of being obtuse, the ball is still in your court.

Originally Posted by Vetiver

A true individual is someone who thinks for themselves and enjoys what best suits their individual tastes. No two people are the same.

Anyone who bases their personal tastes on what society and the media 'dictates' to them I would refuse to take seriously.

Originally Posted by Vetiver

Nope, but I wasn't going to sound like a bandwagon jumper either.

Originally Posted by grindy

Because you really do seem to care what other people think in that case.

Where's the misrepresentation?

Originally Posted by elphenor

people act as if self-producing and distribution wasn't a thing until the Internet became the primary tool for that sort of thing

there's a ton of **** to wade through in every decade that isn't really what I'm getting at

Originally Posted by Vetiver

LOL! You are really reaching.

The second quote you're referring to is about not wanting to come across as a bandwagon jumper or someone who chooses the obvious (or cliché), therefore retaining a sense of individuality.

I can't speak for everyone, but I'm sure there are some who would reach the same conclusion if I mentioned that I liked listening to Radiohead. And for the record, I never stopped listening to Radiohead, the band just fell down my list of bands to namedrop, in conversion, for the reasons mentioned above.

Originally Posted by elphenor

not necessarily

a portable 4-track back in the day costs considerably less than a laptop today, was set-up right out of the box, and the recordings sound great even by todays standards