adidasss

They were one of my favorite bands in the mid 90s and as far as I remember, were pretty much on par in terms of popularity with Green day, part of the same punk-revival wave. Smash was huge. I haven't heard it in a while, just a few of the standout tracks but they still hold up for me.

I think they burned out quicker than Green day though. Never really made the switch post 00, while Green Day had with American idiot and 21st century breakdown.

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TheBig3

Is 21st Century Breakdown any good?

eh, to me, albums are boring. If you have 2 or 3 good tracks in the age of streaming, I'll go see you live.

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The Batlord

You're boring.

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TheBig3

Yeah no, you're right, there's never any filler on albums and every song is 100% necessary to just like, get the vibe, man.

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The Batlord

And you totally just don't have a short attention span.

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Frownland

Sounds more like a product of mainly listening to milquetoast radio rock tbh

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TheBig3

Sure. Whatever. The way they ship something isn't the problem. If you have 8 songs you think are good, you should release them. It's this artificial length we've tricked ourselves into believing has merit because, ya know, "art." Or worse, the A&R guys think will be a big hit!

There was a guy on one of Fantano's "Let's Argue" segments who said "The only way an album can get a 10 is if it's a concept album" and I can just see this smug **** who thinks that. I just knew so many of them in college and I always remember saying "yeah, maybe" and thinking "I hope this ****ing ******* gets hit by a bus so someone worth the oxygen can take their job."

It's the sort of person that thinks Dream Theater isn't Prog enough. Or insert whatever band is the easy-dunk for the elitist crowd. Whatever, it's the bus lane for all of them, I say.

The Batlord

So what you actually mean to say is you don't like prog fans but it feels too petty to just say that?

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TheBig3

I don't hate prog fans. I hate smug clowns who think they have a premium on taste.

I also hate NIMBYs and people who live in San Francisco, neither of which I have a problem telling you.

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The Batlord

That doesn't sound like something you'd hear at Ozzfest so he probably won't like it.

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