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Old 03-07-2010, 05:35 AM   #1751 (permalink)
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When you say "I spend altogether too much time looking... none exist" do you mean in all of Rock and Roll or just in Pink Floyds catalogue?
I mean bands who's output approximates the style of that particular period of pink floyd's discography. Most of what comes closest are the contemporaries of that period and not bands that that period in Pink Floyd's career have influenced.

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I think the history of Pink Floyd can be divided into three eras.
1. The Syd Barrett Era
2. The AOR Era.
3. The Floyd vs Floyd Era.
That's a pretty good division of Floyd's material, and I shamelessly have little to no interest in anything they released outside of the 70's (if only they could've waited until 1980 to release the wall, that statement would be so much more unequivocal). I definitely respect Syd as a musician and his creative influence, but Piper's and Saucer have always been 'meh' albums for me. Maybe that can be my unpopular music opinion. Syd's era was free form psychdelic jams, and also at least two Top 40 hits in the UK during late 60's. You are so right, the Neo Psychedelia borrowed heavily from that era, and like you, I often wondered hey why not their 70's stuff!?


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Syd's era was free form psychdelic jams, and also at least two Top 40 hits in the UK during late 60's. You are so right, the Neo Psychedelia borrowed heavily from that era, and like you, I often wondered hey why not their 70's stuff!?
It's not that it wasn't that influential, it's just that neo-prog is such a niche genre/market, and floyd's influence isn't so readily identifiable in bands like Porcupine Tree, Ocean Size, and The Flower Kings, but it is there.

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Despite their intimacy with the UK, Pink Floyd was still popular outside the UK. Pink Floyd was the first band out of the Progressive movement to score a hit in the United States. They are known as the flagship band of the Prog Rock genre both becuase of their history, for the fact they were together longer then the other bands, and for their popularity.
What I was trying to say is that we as Americans did not benefit from being able to witness Pink Floyd's beginnings on their own home turf the way that British fans did. Nothing is quite as exciting or influential as being able to watch a new band with fresh passion who you identify with as common citizens of wherever you're from transition from being nothing to something. The legacy of that early period in Pink Floyd's career and its subsequent influence was far more immediate even decades later in the UK than it will ever be in the states. Our first strong exposure to the band was their post-barret work. By the time Pink Floyd became very well known in the states they were packing our stadiums. The music was great, but that lack of intimacy and immediacy doesn't make for much of an influence.
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:52 PM   #1752 (permalink)
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Marcy Playground is good. They have some duds (like many bands), but they're generally good and under-appreciated.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:52 PM   #1753 (permalink)
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The Doors, Led Zeppelin and The Rolling Stones are mediocre to above average and not the gods everyone makes them out to be
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:05 PM   #1754 (permalink)
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Jay-Z is a horrible MC, I don't think any of his albums are even remotely good, and he's the most overrated rapper of all time, bar none.
More so than Lil' Wayne?
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Old 04-08-2010, 03:38 PM   #1755 (permalink)
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i think Christina Aguiliera is AWESOME. a lot of the time her producers are lame and she sings other peoples' music as opposed to her own, but damn, that woman can sing.
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i think Christina Aguiliera is AWESOME. a lot of the time her producers are lame and she sings other peoples' music as opposed to her own, but damn, that woman can sing.
So true. She's got some of the most impressive pipes I've heard in recent pop.
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Old 04-08-2010, 04:24 PM   #1757 (permalink)
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I think plenty of those artists have good voices, but that doesn't mean their SONGS are good and they get criticized for both that and a variety of other reasons
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:31 PM   #1758 (permalink)
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well really, criticism is a defense mechanism and thusly everybody is under scrutiny. regardless of "those artist's" faults, i'm choosing to acknowledge something that i find rather amazing. no too many people have ever been able to do what she can do. sure, she can sound really annoying sometimes... but i'm willing to bet that if there were no such thing as money and people that make millions of dollars scouting potential child stars (utilizing unnatural methods of creating, performing and selling music), some of "those artists" would likely be a part of "us artists."

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Old 04-08-2010, 05:32 PM   #1759 (permalink)
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no too many people have ever been able to do what she can do.
In what sense?
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:42 PM   #1760 (permalink)
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she can sing like a motherf*cker man!

she's pretty much got it all. tone... range... dynamic... style (which is infringed upon by record companies no doubt), presence... man, everything. but i'm saying that people like her would be much more respected and have an "artistic output" that is much more substantial if record companies didn't flash dollars to make them conform to the standards of statistics.

don't get me wrong. she's smokin hot and all too, but i'm not really diggin the package either. i really don't like 90-95% of the stuff she does. but sometimes she has room to kill it, and i mean KILL IT, and she does.

i suppose i am dissing record companies and their facility to rape art of any real meaning and also appreciating Christina Aguiliera's "moments"... lol
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