Unpopular Music Opinions

mr dave · 03-06-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bogey_j

what are some bands you just never understood why all the critics and fans splooge all over themselves whenever theyre mentioned?

For me that band is the clash. Probably one of the most loved bands ever. I rarely hear people speak bad about them, but i've always found them pretty boring

hey! Ho!

Ra-mones!

TheCunningStunt · 03-06-2010, 06:35 PM

Pink Floyd were shit.

SATCHMO · 03-06-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

Pink Floyd were the shit.

Fixed.

jackhammer · 03-06-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

Pink Floyd were shit.

You may not like them but they were certainly not shit. 75% of British alternative music would not be if not for Piper At The Gates Of Dawn. I am presuming that you have heard it?

duga · 03-06-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

You may not like them but they were certainly not shit. 75% of British alternative music would not be if not for Piper At The Gates Of Dawn. I am presuming that you have heard it?

You can take this as a bit of ignorance on my part, but was that album really that influential? I love it, and actually love Syd Barrett's solo stuff as well, but that was hardly the album that made them superstars.

jackhammer · 03-06-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

You can take this as a bit of ignorance on my part, but was that album really that influential? I love it, and actually love Syd Barrett's solo stuff as well, but that was hardly the album that made them superstars.

It has nothing to do with it making 'superstars'. I am talking about influence and it's effect on British music.

SATCHMO · 03-06-2010, 08:08 PM

I think Jackhammer's assertion is pretty dead on, and because of Pink Floyd's geographic immediacy in the UK, and subsequent influence, it may be something we're not quite as able to perceive as clearly in America. Listen to just about any British alternative band and you can hear ripples of Pipers at the Gates of Dawn's influence. I certainly wish that their early to mid seventies material was at least as influential to music in general as Piper's was to British alt. specifically, but for as popular as it was, and still is, the influence it had on contemporary music in general is minimal compared to Floyd's early material's influence on Uk alternative. I wish It weren't so. I spend altogether too much time looking for another animals, Dark side of the Moon, or Wish you were Here, but sadly, none exist.

TheCunningStunt · 03-06-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

You may not like them but they were certainly not shit. 75% of British alternative music would not be if not for Piper At The Gates Of Dawn. I am presuming that you have heard it?

Me not liking them and thinking they're shit, is there much difference?

I just never saw the appeal with them.

Although I must confess Comfortably Numb is a beautiful song.

Yeah I've heard it, good job if it influenced so many, which I'm sure it did.. I just never saw why.

Neapolitan · 03-06-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

It has nothing to do with it making 'superstars'. I am talking about influence and it's effect on British music.

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

I think Jackhammer's assertion is pretty dead on, and because of Pink Floyd's geographic immediacy in the UK, and subsequent influence, it may be something we're not quite as able to perceive as clearly in America. Listen to just about any British alternative band and you can hear ripples of Pipers at the Gates of Dawn's influence. I certainly wish that their early to mid seventies material was at least as influential to music in general as Piper's was to British alt. specifically, but for as popular as it was, and still is, the influence it had on contemporary music in general is minimal compared to Floyd's early material's influence on Uk alternative. I wish It weren't so. I spend altogether too much time looking for another animals, Dark side of the Moon, or Wish you were Here, but sadly, none exist.

When you say "I spend altogether too much time looking... none exist" do you mean in all of Rock and Roll or just in Pink Floyds cataogue?

I think the history of Pink Floyd can be divided into three eras.
1. The Syd Barrett Era
2. The AOR Era.
3. The Floyd vs Floyd Era.

Syd's era was free form psychdelic jams, and also at least two Top 40 hits in the UK during late 60's. You are so right, the Neo Psychedelia borrowed heavily from that era, and like you, I often wondered hey why not their 70's stuff!?

Despite their intimacy with the UK, Pink Floyd was still popular outside the UK. Pink Floyd was the first band out of the Progressive movement to score a hit in the United States. They are known as the flagship band of the Prog Rock genre both becuase of their history, for the fact they were together longer then the other bands, and for their popularity. But it must also be noted that some of the other Progressive bands from UK formed fans outside their country some time before the found roots in their own Uk soil. It's like the UK vision of Pink Floyd is different from the perspective of other countries. On one hand you have Pink Floyd being one of the biggest bands on AOR/Classic Rock radio and then you have Neo Psychedelia being influenced by Syd's era starting in Britain during the late 70's. But then you also have influnce in form of an anti-influence with Punk ethos, those dislike the complexity of their music and their stage props.

duga · 03-07-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

I think Jackhammer's assertion is pretty dead on, and because of Pink Floyd's geographic immediacy in the UK, and subsequent influence, it may be something we're not quite as able to perceive as clearly in America. Listen to just about any British alternative band and you can hear ripples of Pipers at the Gates of Dawn's influence. I certainly wish that their early to mid seventies material was at least as influential to music in general as Piper's was to British alt. specifically, but for as popular as it was, and still is, the influence it had on contemporary music in general is minimal compared to Floyd's early material's influence on Uk alternative. I wish It weren't so. I spend altogether too much time looking for another animals, Dark side of the Moon, or Wish you were Here, but sadly, none exist.

Yeah...this is what I wanted to know.

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TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	Pink Floyd were shit.

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SATCHMO Al Dente Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,708	I think Jackhammer's assertion is pretty dead on, and because of Pink Floyd's geographic immediacy in the UK, and subsequent influence, it may be something we're not quite as able to perceive as clearly in America. Listen to just about any British alternative band and you can hear ripples of Pipers at the Gates of Dawn's influence. I certainly wish that their early to mid seventies material was at least as influential to music in general as Piper's was to British alt. specifically, but for as popular as it was, and still is, the influence it had on contemporary music in general is minimal compared to Floyd's early material's influence on Uk alternative. I wish It weren't so. I spend altogether too much time looking for another animals, Dark side of the Moon, or Wish you were Here, but sadly, none exist.