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TheBig3 · 09-29-2020, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Wait till you hear about Metallica.

Their later stuff is eh, that's why it didn't rank number one on anyone's list, but Reign in Blood is the holy text of thrash and Megadeth never even contributed anything close to that.

1. I love Metallica and they're orders of magnitude better than Slayer.
2. Rust in Peace is better than Reign in Blood
3. The best solo Kerry King ever had was No Sleep 'til Brooklyn.

**Frownland** · 09-29-2020, 05:07 PM

They're all pretty great, but Slayer takes the cake largely because of Dave Lombardo and their chaotic energy was unmatched in metal. Megadeth at their thrashiest sounded more like a group of teenagers who are scary because they might drunkenly crash their car (...or bus) into you. Slayer's a pack of rabid hellhounds.

The Batlord · 09-29-2020, 05:33 PM

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Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and call Shenanigans on Slayer making the list. I know they're ****, but they aren't Nu-Metal.

Honestly after just relistening to God Hates Us All I kinda want to take them off my list. It's got nu metal riffs on it but it's still a stone cold ****ing thrash album.

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Their later stuff is eh, that's why it didn't rank number one on anyone's list, but Reign in Blood is the holy text of thrash and Megadeth never even contributed anything close to that.

Bitch, their debut is the perfect speed metal album while also being a schizo diatribe on what metal could have been had Dave not been a whacked out, inconsistent drug fiend who fired every member of the band other than his bassist every few years and was also trying to keep up with Metallica's success.

Also without Mustaine Metallica almost immediately evolved into a far less wild, more staid band who I would argue on their own without Mustaine ever being in the band may very well have never had a sound anywhere near Kill Em All, which kickstarted much of thrash especially in the Bay Area, and therefore Mustaine's biggest contribution to thrash might be an uncredited spark for the genre as a whole.

**Frownland** · 09-29-2020, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Bitch, their debut is the perfect speed metal album while also being a schizo diatribe on what metal could have been had Dave not been a whacked out, inconsistent drug fiend who fired every member of the band other than his bassist every few years and was also trying to keep up with Metallica's success.

Nah Reign in Blood outshines that.

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Also without Mustaine Metallica almost immediately evolved into a far less wild, more staid band who I would argue on their own without Mustaine ever being in the band may very well have never had a sound anywhere near Kill Em All, which kickstarted much of thrash especially in the Bay Area, and therefore Mustaine's biggest contribution to thrash might be an uncredited spark for the genre as a whole.

Totally. I think we would need to figure out if Dave was the one who discovered the Pauk album to really know though.

TheBig3 · 09-29-2020, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

*ahem*

metal sucks

tl;dr

OccultHawk · 09-29-2020, 05:38 PM

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1. I love Metallica and they're orders of magnitude better than Slayer.
2. Rust in Peace is better than Reign in Blood

Both of those opinions should earn you a long ban.

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3. The best solo Kerry King ever had was No Sleep 'til Brooklyn.

That solo does rock holy hell.

The Batlord · 09-29-2020, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Nah Reign in Blood outshines that.

I mean it's more developed and extreme but Killing Is My Business is more wild, raw, and unhinged which is more important to me. I'd love to hear what Megadeth would have done if they hadn't pulled back the reigns on Peace Sells and made a more accessible album but it is what it is. Even so Killing Is My Business is the album I go back to far more often and one of the high water marks for metal for me.

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Totally. I think we would need to figure out if Dave was the one who discovered the Pauk album to really know though.

Pauk?

**Frownland** · 09-29-2020, 05:51 PM

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I mean it's more developed and extreme but Killing Is My Business is more wild and unhinged which is more important to me. I'd love to hear what Megadeth would have done if they hadn't pulled back the reigns on Peace Sells and made a more accessible album but it is what it is. Even so Killing Is My Business is the album I go back to far more often and one of the high water marks for metal for me.

Same here, Slayer just hits a higher watermark.

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Pauk?

The Batlord · 09-29-2020, 06:12 PM

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Same here, Slayer just hits a higher watermark.

I mean obviously I can understand that but I really have a taste for old school early/mid 80s speed metal like the Big 4 debuts (Megadeth's being the best) and **** like Omen, Exciter, Jag Panzer, whatever. So my preference for Killing Is My Business over Reign in Blood isn't really an anomaly. Show No Mercy is totally underrated of course.

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At first I was confused until I made the connection with the skittery guitar. ****ing neat.

Neapolitan · 09-29-2020, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

*ahem*

metal sucks

Oh didn't notice. It's not even on my radar, but seriously you're like the Henry Rollins of Music Banter.

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