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Old 05-14-2020, 08:52 AM   #16881 (permalink)
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omg Yes of course there's metal in nu metal, you crank, I just didn't think I'd have to say that. You're just confusing nu metal with alternative metal, which nu metal is a specific movement within. The distinction being that alt metal was never really a genre, just a loose collection of bands with vaguely similar influences, whereas nu metal was more of a cohesive sub-genre.
That included Slipknot based exactly on the description I gave.
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Old 05-14-2020, 08:55 AM   #16882 (permalink)
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Batman is correct.

Slipknot is nu metal enough but calling them groove metal might be more appropriate.
Then he's not correct because that would mean Slipknot is nu metal not just alternative metal (which covers nu metal btw) even if you think it's groove metal contrary to what everybody else classifies them as which is nu metal.
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:06 AM   #16883 (permalink)
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Then he's not correct because that would mean Slipknot is nu metal not just alternative metal (which covers nu metal btw) even if you think it's groove metal contrary to what everybody else classifies them as which is nu metal.


I'd say that their nu metal components come from groove metal more than an affinity with the nu metal movement.
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:09 AM   #16884 (permalink)
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That included Slipknot based exactly on the description I gave.
Your description was bunk though. You're just describing alternative metal as if nu metal is a synonym when it isn't. I don't listen to Slipknot cause they suck but my memory is that the hip hop influence is kind of minimal and they're more about alt metal infused with a hodgepodge of thrash metal, death metal, and grindcore. Influences that are not really present in most nu metal besides liberal thrash sprinklings in some bands. It's the hip hop and funk influences welded onto metal that are core to nu metal.
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:13 AM   #16885 (permalink)
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I'd say that their nu metal components come from groove metal more than an affinity with the nu metal movement.
That's because groove metal was a huge influence on nu metal. If you want to have a petty pedantic wikipedia battle on this.




Oh wow, see how Slipknot is in the list of Numetal bands and not the Groove metal bands that influenced numetal?
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You don't think that Slipknot influenced nu metal?
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Your description was bunk though. You're just describing alternative metal as if nu metal is a synonym when it isn't. I don't listen to Slipknot cause they suck but my memory is that the hip hop influence is kind of minimal and they're more about alt metal infused with a hodgepodge of thrash metal, death metal, and grindcore. Influences that are not really present in most nu metal besides liberal thrash sprinklings in some bands. It's the hip hop and funk influences welded onto metal that are core to nu metal.
And industrial. Hip hop funk and industrial. They're a bit more extreme than most nu metal but they're still nu metal and considered the quintessential nu metal band next to Korn.
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You don't think that Slipknot influenced nu metal?
I don't think Slipknot was a groove metal band. Or that you've made a good enough case to say that I'm wrong about calling them nu metal at the very least.
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Bunk. I think this is literally the first time I've seen Godsmack referred to as nu metal. And Staind were just kind of heavy butt rock weren't they? Drowning Pool are another bad call. Whoever wrote that is a moron.
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Bunk. I think this is literally the first time I've seen Godsmack referred to as nu metal. And Staind were just kind of heavy butt rock weren't they? Drowning Pool are another bad call. Whoever wrote that is a moron.
And they put Linkin Park in there too. You have a point with that one.
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