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Old 07-13-2019, 07:01 PM   #16321 (permalink)
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Suicidal blended the genres more coherently than DRI (for better or worse) and were more influential but that's kind of an unfair to say since the influence between those bands is a two way street.
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:01 PM   #16322 (permalink)
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And by what standard does elph’s pick of Unknown Pleasures fail to qualify?
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:04 PM   #16323 (permalink)
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I thought the idea of thrash was known and understood. Thrash = metal + hardcore punk. Doesn't everyone on this ****ing site know that that's what thrash is? Should I get on a train with a billboard and start shouting it to random people while waving my sign at them?

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Old 07-13-2019, 07:05 PM   #16324 (permalink)
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And by what standard does elph’s pick of Unknown Pleasures fail to qualify?
I already said that Joy Division was a potential legit refutation of my argument, but I'd still say that Metallica's influence on metal with their debut was more groundbreaking but that's impossible to calculate. So I'd say both are reasonably eye to eye.
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:07 PM   #16325 (permalink)
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I already said that Joy Division was a potential legit refutation of my argument, but I'd still say that Metallica's influence on metal with their debut was more groundbreaking but that's impossible to calculate. So I'd say both are reasonably eye to eye.
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Old 07-13-2019, 07:09 PM   #16326 (permalink)
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Suicidal blended the genres more coherently than DRI (for better or worse) and were more influential but that's kind of an unfair to say since the influence between those bands is a two way street.
I'd say both bands' influence was more in people making their thrash bands sound more or less like one of those bands rather than influencing people in the same way a lot of musicians influenced by Metallica in the early-mid 80s probably had a complete change in sound.
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elph wins

Congratulations elph
Metallica produced less bands that sound like bands elph would listen to so I still win.
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Metallica produced less bands that sound like bands elph would listen to so I still win.
You’re the judge. It was me Vs elph. I lost. Life goes on.
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Elph will run into a light pole eventually so victory is assured.
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next truly in all of rock though?
It’s an indefensible claim from start to finish. The first problem is putting The Ramones in some kind of slot with Metallica. He explained his point but still you just don’t do that.
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