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Old 07-13-2019, 04:49 PM   #16301 (permalink)
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Just take Diamond Head, a band whose music and riffs helped to bridge 70s and 80s metal, and listen to their most famous song from 1980, and listen to Metallica's cover from 1983 and tell me Metallica hadn't changed something on a massive level simply by their attitude and their approach in a way that changed how metal was to be perceived from then till this day. The songs are the same, but somehow completely different.



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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 07-13-2019, 04:52 PM   #16302 (permalink)
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I get where you’re coming from. @bat
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:02 PM   #16303 (permalink)
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so they're important to metal

nobody would question that

Ramones are important to practically ****ing every band worth anything since
I didn't say they were on the same level as the Ramones. I said they were the next truly important band. They were the band that allowed metal to rightfully adopt punk's edge rather than just being heavier classic rock which was honestly what a lot of the NWOBHM bands did (which is why nobody remembers them). Like I said. Look at their early covers. They made a lot of bands irrelevant.







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Old 07-13-2019, 05:19 PM   #16304 (permalink)
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How about Kollaps?
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:25 PM   #16305 (permalink)
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Of course industrial is more extreme than metal but it's also a completely different form of music and one that didn't have the impact on the populace as what Metallica started.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:32 PM   #16307 (permalink)
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Are you just throwing out random bands now?
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Are you just throwing out random bands now?
No DRI are notorious for pioneering crossover thrash.
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Old 07-13-2019, 05:39 PM   #16309 (permalink)
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There are a lot of pioneering thrash bands. Thrash itself is the combination of hardcore punk and metal. Pioneering crossover is like pioneering pop punk. Ask Metallica about the Ramones and Discharge and see what they have to say. I'll bet they're pro Ramones and Discharge.
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Same year as Kill Em All

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