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Old 08-13-2018, 10:02 AM   #15721 (permalink)
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Toto is trash and the whole Weezer meme needs to ****ing not.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:08 AM   #15722 (permalink)
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I can tell you that ICP has a diverse and huge catalog spanning across 3 decades still going and I bet you'll still not explore it based on the small sample size you've heard.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:15 AM   #15723 (permalink)
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I can tell you that ICP has a diverse and huge catalog spanning across 3 decades still going and I bet you'll still not explore it based on the small sample size you've heard.
Fair or not, that's how it's done.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:26 AM   #15724 (permalink)
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Aside from Africa, Toto was pretty much crap.

May or may not be an unpopular opinion around here.
I honestly can't really gauge that.
Toto IV is a good album but I'm not a fan so I couldn't say. If Unknown Soldier ever makes it back he'll rip you a new one while Ant holds you down.
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Toto has songs that aren't Africa?
Yeah: America, Europe, India ...
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Africa is not a listenable song either, I thought that was the meme
Shut your whore mouth. Africa is class.
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as much as it'll pain me to defend Shazzy you shouldn't have to preface everything with some version of "in my opinion"

what he said is they were pretty much crap, not that they didn't do anything outside Africa
I think Toto recorded most of their material outside of Africa actually.
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I do that to make it clear I'm not personally attacking him for having an opinion. Just that it isn't a good perspective to have when you could easily turn it around and apply it to bands he likes.
Yeah, anyone could say this about DEG and he would say "what? You don't know them!" etc.
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comparing dismissing Toto to dismissing Residents is lol

Residents are exp. music, something that's purposefully confrontational and hard to digest
Google Translate Elphenor to English: "I love The Residents so don't diss them but I hate Toto so have at them."
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Toto is trash and the whole Weezer meme needs to ****ing not.
Welcome back Frown. You were missed.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:32 AM   #15725 (permalink)
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I totally trashed Toto based on listening to Toto IV. I'm just a bad boy like that.

I'm paying my dues right now here on Spotify, trying to find the good music they've done.

My opinion about ****ting on bands is that there's no rules. If anyone doesn't like Dir En Grey, go ahead and say your worst. I've never complained about that, but I have disagreed. Those are two different responses.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:54 AM   #15726 (permalink)
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I'd agree with your stance to a point, but I would also say don't **** on it if you haven't heard it. In other words, I might think, say, The Fall are crap, or hate ELP, but unless I've listened to a few albums I don't think I have the right to form an opinion like that. Seems a little ignorant. I'd just say I don't know the band but what I've heard (if anything) hasn't encouraged me to get to know them.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:59 AM   #15727 (permalink)
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Toto is trash and the whole Weezer meme needs to ****ing not.
Critics called The Empire Strikes Back trash back in the day too.
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I'd agree with your stance to a point, but I would also say don't **** on it if you haven't heard it. In other words, I might think, say, The Fall are crap, or hate ELP, but unless I've listened to a few albums I don't think I have the right to form an opinion like that. Seems a little ignorant. I'd just say I don't know the band but what I've heard (if anything) hasn't encouraged me to get to know them.
I agree, except this is the "unpopular music opinions" thread, so I think it's very constructive to be a total ass for the purposes of getting a little action going

Further in my defense, I still haven't found some more Toto that I like (still listening).
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In a time when the movie tastes of grown ups hadn't yet been wholly infantilized, it was a pretty ****ty trend setter.





EDIT: Wow. My snob levels just broke the barometer.
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:13 AM   #15730 (permalink)
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Critics called The Empire Strikes Back trash back in the day too.
So? They also called Super Babies 2 bad.
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