Unpopular Music Opinions

**Frownland** · 08-10-2018, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Brian Eno preached (still preaches?) a conceptual focus is important to good music

Even when its ambient

Concept: songs that are rad af

You are not being very punk atm

Oriphiel · 08-10-2018, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I'm not saying a moral or political point

And I say "can" because ofc no rules on what can work ultimately

Yeah, I know. Tbh, I just wanted to post 45 Grave.

The Batlord · 08-10-2018, 03:32 PM

Art is art. Whatever an artist thinks is valid is valid and whatever the listener thinks is valid is valid. You can debate whatever but it's a pretty obvious point that doesn't even need to be debated in a larger sense unless you're talking to a pleb.

**Frownland** · 08-10-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Devo built their sound around the concept which they reiterated was the most important part of their art

They thought up devolution and started videos prior to sountracking it with the fitting Future Caveman sound

And their music would suck if they didn't have the songwriting skills to execute that concept.

Oriphiel · 08-10-2018, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I remember a Jad Fair interview where he basically says music is the most backwards art medium in terms of how the majority of musicians view it

Nah, video games

**Frownland** · 08-10-2018, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

maybe but the songwriting itself down to the sparse drumming was derived from the concept

Fascist.

The Batlord · 08-10-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Nah, video games

Hell yeah. If a medium intentionally makes you feel something then it's art. But the video game industry doesn't recognize, understand, or care about this so they have zero consideration for video games as art.

**Frownland** · 08-10-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Hell yeah. If a medium intentionally makes you feel something then it's art. But the video game industry doesn't recognize, understand, or care about this so they have zero consideration for video games as art.

Isn't the goal of entertainment enough of an emotional evocation?

**Frownland** · 08-10-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

lame geek musicians

So is this what you're picturing when you say "music for music's sake"? Because I'd apply that concept more to garage bands and the like.

The Batlord · 08-10-2018, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Isn't the goal of entertainment enough of an emotional evocation?

If you've never really gotten into video games, as you never seem to have, then I wouldn't expect you to get it (honestly no offense), but video games made well evoke very specific emotional and mental responses in much the same but still unique ways that any form of art does. It's functionally art even if it's not treated as art.