Unpopular Music Opinions

Neapolitan · 01-02-2018, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's hard not to rip off Coltrane in some way.

Roger McGuinn said he was inspired by Coltrane. He spend all night (the day before) listening to his albums and McGuinn modeled his guitar solo after Coltrane. So scientifically it is better than any Led Zeppelin guitar solo. (I'm sure you and Chula will agree with me on that.)

The Byrds- Eight Miles High (HQ)

Chula Vista · 01-02-2018, 11:03 PM

What makes that solo sound so cool is that it was done on a 12 string. When I first heard that song I was sure it was Steve Howe playing.

OccultHawk · 01-02-2018, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Roger McGuinn said he was inspired by Coltrane. He spend all night (the day before) listening to his albums and McGuinn modeled his guitar solo after Coltrane. So scientifically it is better than any Led Zeppelin guitar solo. (I'm sure you and Chula will agree with me on that.)

The Byrds- Eight Miles High (HQ)

It’s at least as good as any other guitar work in the history of rocknroll. If you want to argue it’s the best I don’t have any problem with that.

Neapolitan · 01-03-2018, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

What makes that solo sound so cool is that it was done on a 12 string. When I first heard that song I was sure it was Steve Howe playing.

Are you serious? The Byrds released the single on March 14th '66. Steve Howe left the Syndicats in '65 and was in the band Tomorrow at the time the song Eight Miles High came out. And I am pretty sure no one in Boston heard of Tomorrow or Steve Howe in '66. Unless you were at the UFO Club in London or were listening to John Peel's Perfumed Garden radio show you would have no idea of Tomorrow or who Steve Howe was at the time, but that stuff was like a year after Eight Miles High was released. Honestly of all the absurd things I read on this site that takes the cake. I think you are just saying that to ruffle up my feathers.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It’s at least as good as any other guitar work in the history of rocknroll. If you want to argue it’s the best I don’t have any problem with that.

Nah, I just want to argue it is better than a Led Zeppelin solo.

OccultHawk · 01-03-2018, 12:20 AM

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Nah

I ain’t asking. I’m telling.

Chula Vista · 01-03-2018, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Are you serious? The Byrds released the single on March 14th '66. Steve Howe left the Syndicats in '65 and was in the band Tomorrow at the time the song Eight Miles High came out. And I am pretty sure no one in Boston heard of Tomorrow or Steve Howe in '66. Unless you were at the UFO Club in London or were listening to John Peel's Perfumed Garden radio show you would have no idea of Tomorrow or who Steve Howe was at the time, but that stuff was like a year after Eight Miles High was released.

Settle down son.

All I said was that the first time I heard it, and really listened (1971-ish) it made me think of Howe. (I own this single on vinyl)

Lisnaholic · 01-03-2018, 05:49 AM

Well, you two are very knowledgeable about 60s singles! I'm impressed. It's not often you hear people talking about Tomorrow or the Perfumed Garden show. Only on MB, folks!

Eight Miles High is one of my favourite Byrds tracks, but more for the wistful melody and lyrics (Sidewalk scenes, and black limousines...). I never particularly noticed the guitar solo and I'm surprised to learn that it was influenced by Coltrane - but then I couldn't really identify Coltrane's style as I've never listened to him much.

BTW, the live version of 8MH on Untitled is a wonderful 17-min jam which is easily my fave version of the song.

rubber soul · 01-03-2018, 06:09 AM

I had (still have on mp3) the Tomorrow album and I never paid attention to who the bandmembers were. Yes, you do learn a lot on Musicbanter

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I'm a pretty big Byrds fan (they rank fifth all time for me), so it was nice to see them get a little bit of love. Eight Miles High is probably their magnum opus, but I could point to the entire Fifth Dimension album for inspiration. McGuinn's guitar work is impeccable on that album as well as with Younger Than Yesterday. McGuinn probably is one of rock's most underrated guitarists. Also, you may want to check out his Back From Rio from 1991. That's also a nice piece of work.

~~MicShazam~~ · 01-03-2018, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It's the ****. It's where it all started. Just avoid the original pilot (the one without William Shatner) like the plague, or at least come back to it after you've been able to appreciate the series as it was. I can provide you with a list of great episodes if you want; almost all of them can be watched standalone, as back then the only arc they knew of was in arc welding...

Assuming even those first episodes are 45-ish minutes long, I think 5 episodes or so would be plenty for me to get started on. I've managed to enjoy Star Trek in the past, but I'm really bad at watching whole series. So if you've got a handful episodes that you think might get me hooked, by all means throw them my way

Blank. · 01-03-2018, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Assuming even those first episodes are 45-ish minutes long, I think 5 episodes or so would be plenty for me to get started on. I've managed to enjoy Star Trek in the past, but I'm really bad at watching whole series. So if you've got a handful episodes that you think might get me hooked, by all means throw them my way

Trouble with Tribbles. It's a Classic that beloved by everyone.

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Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Well, you two are very knowledgeable about 60s singles! I'm impressed. It's not often you hear people talking about Tomorrow or the Perfumed Garden show. Only on MB, folks! Eight Miles High is one of my favourite Byrds tracks, but more for the wistful melody and lyrics (Sidewalk scenes, and black limousines...). I never particularly noticed the guitar solo and I'm surprised to learn that it was influenced by Coltrane - but then I couldn't really identify Coltrane's style as I've never listened to him much. BTW, the live version of 8MH on Untitled is a wonderful 17-min jam which is easily my fave version of the song. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953