Originally Posted by MicShazam

I mean, sure, lots of music has boring vocals, but usually those same pieces will not have good music either, which should indicate that the vocals are not the problem.

The only genres where I'd tend to agree that vocals are usually disposable would be various extreme metal genres. Growling* is usually just a thing that one learns to ignore. It is almost never interesting in itself. I honestly think metalheads often prefer growling because that just means they don't have to find themselves challenged by the vocals. Growling tends to quickly just turn into white noise and fade into the back of your mind. Growled vocals are only difficult to deal with for people who are new to them; after that, it becomes the easy, lazy option for the listener.

*growling here used as inclusive of all very harsh, abrasive styles common to metal.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by Frownland

I was with you until you specified that you were talking about all abrasive singing and not just cliched DM growls.

Anyway I think that there's some truth to metalheads not wanting non-abrasive vocals to avoid being challenged, but for me I don't want clean vocals in my metal because they're usually either ****ty or corny, and sometimes there are little bits of corn in the ****.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Although I actually find the vocals charming in that 80s sense.

Originally Posted by MicShazam

I put that pretty strongly, but I want to make it clear that there are examples of abrasive vocals in metal that I really enjoy. Not just deal with, but actively enjoy. It's somewhat rare though, and for DM, it's exceedingly rare.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by SoundboardTerrorSquad

The money store is my least favorite Death Grips album.

i might even go as far as to say i dont like a single song on it

Originally Posted by Frownland

John Cage is about as far away from pretentious as you can get. Those who dismiss his ideas are the pretentious ones.

Originally Posted by Frownland

John Cage is about as far away from pretentious as you can get. Those who dismiss his ideas are the pretentious ones.

Originally Posted by elphenor

why does every Devo album suck after Are We Not Men

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

You don’t like Freedom of Choice?

Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

But looking for quality interaction on MB is like trying to stay hydrated by drinking salt water.