Unpopular Music Opinions

The Batlord · 11-16-2017, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Better. I'm getting a sort of Xentrix + Dark Angel vibe here. I like the slower tembo and the rather simple riffs. What's going on with the snare drum in the second of these two tracks though? I giggled when i first heard that. I did get used to it, so no biggie. Made me think of the kick drum on this Vader track:

Subtlety? What's subtlety?

That first track I used was the most Pantera (they predated and highly influenced Pantera's groove era) track on their debut, but a lot of the rest of it is more balls to the wall death thrash interspersed with that kind of mid-paced heavy ****. But they introduced a ton more groove than any band before them and **** quite nicely on Pantera afaic. One of the more unique thrash bands you'll ever hear.

And if you're talking about the production on the second track... yeah I could have done with a beefier production.

**Frownland** · 11-16-2017, 11:50 AM

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Yea. Bad taste.

Let's actually talk about the music then instead of tossing out boring insults like it's YouTube.

And Justice for All is great in terms of song structure and nothing else. The songs lack the bite that I go to Metallica for and it takes itself too seriously for a band like Metallica to live up to. The Black Album takes that toothless approach and does away with the interesting song progression while improving the production. The ballads are corny as all hell and overall the album does nothing for me. They peaked on RtL, dipped a tiny bit on MoP, then jumped off of a cliff after they found out Cliff died.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-16-2017, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

That first track I used was the most Pantera (they predated and highly influenced Pantera's groove era) track on their debut, but a lot of the rest of it is more balls to the wall death thrash interspersed with that kind of mid-paced heavy ****. But they introduced a ton more groove than any band before them and **** quite nicely on Pantera afaic. One of the more unique thrash bands you'll ever hear.

And if you're talking about the production on the second track... yeah I could have done with a beefier production.

At least on the two tracks you showed me, I can get on board with that band. I guess I do tend to find fast paced thrash boring, unless it's more melodic in nature, like everything on Rust in Peace.

And yeah, I do think that second Exhorder track sounds sort of thin compared to the other one, but it was also about how that snare drum is very loudly mixed and has this really unusual, clattering sound to it. It really caught me off guard. I know I'm nitpicking the sound of albums more than most people.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Let's actually talk about the music then instead of tossing out boring insults like it's YouTube.

And Justice for All is great in terms of song structure and nothing else. The songs lack the bite that I go to Metallica for and it takes itself too seriously for a band like Metallica to live up to. The Black Album takes that toothless approach and does away with the interesting song progression while improving the production. The ballads are corny as all hell and overall the album does nothing for me. They peaked on RtL, dipped a tiny bit on MoP, then jumped off of a cliff after they found out Cliff died.

To me, And Justice for All is an albumm that I grew into after a while. I thought it was boring when I first heard it (around my 18th birthday, I remember), but I just kept spinning it in the background on repeat until I really started to apprecieate the way the songs are put together. It is sort of overlong and tepid - that's what I feel like saying when I try to be "objective" about it - but I like it, so... I don't know.

The Batlord · 11-16-2017, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

At least on the two tracks you showed me, I can get on board with that band. I guess I do tend to find fast paced thrash boring, unless it's more melodic in nature, like everything on Rust in Peace.

You ever listen to Artillery or Heathen?

**Frownland** · 11-16-2017, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

To me, And Justice for All is an albumm that I grew into after a while. I thought it was boring when I first heard it (around my 18th birthday, I remember), but I just kept spinning it in the background on repeat until I really started to apprecieate the way the songs are put together. It is sort of overlong and tepid - that's what I feel like saying when I try to be "objective" about it - but I like it, so... I don't know.

I don't remember how I felt when I first heard it at 2 years old or whatever, but I was into it at an early age when I was never very critical of metal. I think that around the time I was leaving high school and exiting college was when I couldn't find much of value in it outside of the structure.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-16-2017, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You ever listen to Artillery or Heathen?

Heathen... they're that band with a couple albums named something along the lines of "Human Atrocities (?) Exhibit A"? Right? Somewhat familiar, but probably not even by their best material.

Artillery, I don't think I've given muchn of a shot. I've heard of them for sure.

**Frownland** · 11-16-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Heathen... they're that band with a couple albums named something along the lines of "Human Atrocities (?) Exhibit A"? Right? Somewhat familiar, but probably not even by their best material.

You're thinking of Exodus. Check out Breaking the Silence.

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Artillery, I don't think I've given muchn of a shot. I've heard of them for sure.

Artillery is also mucho cool albethem a bit repetitive.

The Batlord · 11-16-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Heathen... they're that band with a couple albums named something along the lines of "Human Atrocities (?) Exhibit A"? Right? Somewhat familiar, but probably not even by their best material.

You're thinking of Exodus. They have The Atrocity Exhibition A & B. Too VERY different bands. Heathen are more like power metal from a thrash perspective, especially on their first album, since PM wasn't really a real, unified genre before the 90s...

After that they were much more influenced by Master of Puppets and ...And Justice for All.

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Artillery, I don't think I've given muchn of a shot. I've heard of them for sure.

Bro, Artillery's By Inheritance is completely required listening for anyone into Rust in Peace and melodic thrash or prog thrash. That guitarwork is stunning.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-16-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You're thinking of Exodus. They have The Atrocity Exhibition A & B. Too VERY different bands. Heathen are more like power metal from a thrash perspective, especially on their first album, since PM wasn't really a real, unified genre before the 90s...

After that they were much more influenced by Master of Puppets and ...And Justice for All.

Bro, Artillery's By Inheritance is completely required listening for anyone into Rust in Peace and melodic thrash or prog thrash. That guitarwork is stunning.

The two Heathen tracks were allright, but I've just been listening to that Heathen song on repeat for one hour straight, so I guess that means I liked it

The Batlord · 11-16-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

The two Heathen tracks were allright, but I've just been listening to that Heathen song on repeat for one hour straight, so I guess that means I liked it

You mean the Artillery song?

And while I wouldn't call it particularly melodic, it's a quasi-extreme thrash album that's accessible through the band's love of breakdowns, fun riffs, and gang shouts, so it often has a groove of immense proportions. You just have to like a bit of mosh porn. TBH all I want to do some days is spread the love of thrash. It was my first one true musical love and will always consume my thoughts more than most genres.

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