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Old 12-07-2016, 12:56 AM   #13321 (permalink)
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80% of 60% of jazz is 25% people playing 30% of the other 50% of jazz musicians songs, which are 40% half improv and 78% a third jazz
Now that's more like it, although the I'd say that they play more 5/8ths improv than half.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:00 AM   #13322 (permalink)
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80% of 60% of jazz is 25% people playing 30% of the other 50% of jazz musicians songs, which are 40% half improv and 78% a third jazz
This is actually a beautiful post.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:06 AM   #13323 (permalink)
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That guy is on drugs.

I can explain Jazz. They are a basketball team that slaughtered the Denver Nuggets.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:10 AM   #13324 (permalink)
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That guy is on drugs.

I can explain Jazz. They are a basketball team that slaughtered the Denver Nuggets.
Didn't Jazz team up with Will Smith at one point?
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:10 AM   #13325 (permalink)
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Would it be an unpopular opinion to say that the method/effort/time/etc put into any music doesn't make a difference at all

Music is music and cool sounding music is cool sounding music.

On the flipside, I suppose one could appreciate a track even more if they admire the production
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:12 AM   #13326 (permalink)
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Would it be an unpopular opinion to say that the method/effort/time/etc put into any music doesn't make a difference at all

Music is music and cool sounding music is cool sounding music.

On the flipside, I suppose one could appreciate a track even more if they admire the production
That really depends. I suppose an over complicated riff could sound like complete **** compared to a simpler one.

But I think it's safe to say that if you don't put enough effort into it then it will sound like ****. In most cases.
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Old 12-07-2016, 07:23 AM   #13327 (permalink)
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I would agree with opinion that extreme metal or noise a la House Arafna is boring.
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Old 12-08-2016, 09:19 PM   #13328 (permalink)
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Is it unpopular to think that this is one of the dumbest perspectives of jazz ever?
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Interviewer: What do you expect is in store for the future of jazz trumpet?

Yogi: I'm thinkin' there'll be a group of guys who've never met talkin' about it all the time...

Interviewer: Can you explain jazz?

Yogi: I can't, but I will. 90% of all jazz is half improvisation. The other half is the part people play while others are playing something they never played with anyone who played that part. So if you play the wrong part, its right. If you play the right part, it might be right if you play it wrong enough. But if you play it too right, it's wrong.

Interviewer: I don't understand.

Yogi: Anyone who understands jazz knows that you can't understand it. It's too complicated. That's whats so simple about it.

Interviewer: Do you understand it?

Yogi: No. That's why I can explain it. If I understood it, I wouldn't know anything about it.

Interviewer: Are there any great jazz players alive today?

Yogi: No. All the great jazz players alive today are dead. Except for the ones that are still alive. But so many of them are dead, that the ones that are still alive are dying to be like the ones that are dead. Some would kill for it.

Interviewer: What is syncopation?

Yogi: That's when the note that you should hear now happens either before or after you hear it. In jazz, you don't hear notes when they happen because that would be some other type of music. Other types of music can be jazz, but only if they're the same as something different from those other kinds.

Interviewer: Now I really don't understand.

Yogi: I haven't taught you enough for you to not understand jazz that well.
That is so dead on groovy, man, it's perhaps one of the greatest interviews of all time. Is it real or is if fake? I can't tell. I am tempted to think that that Jazzbo cat Yogi is none other that Yogi Berra himself being interviewed on Jazz. But I am not sure, was Yogi Berra Jazz aficionado? Where did you pull this gem from?
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:59 PM   #13329 (permalink)
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This Heat is considered "experimental" not so much "Post-Punk."

If you think "Post-Punk" is an "ambiguous umbrella" and "forsaken" why not opt for another term? "Experimental Rock" band seems like an apt term.
This Heat's music is definitely post-punk — as well as experimental rock. The idea behind the sub-genre was to take the energy of punk rock and expand it emotionally and compositionally.

The nervous and occasionally aggressive energy of Deceit exhibits this tendency— just listen to songs like "S.P.Q.R." and "Makeshift Swahili."

As for my previous description of post-punk, I was just being facetious. It's a term that encompasses a wide variety of different sounds and styles, which is what I was trying (and failing) to allude to.
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Old 12-10-2016, 09:56 PM   #13330 (permalink)
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more unpopular opinions:

At least until the late 80s, Hall and Oates put out music that had quality in addition to commercial appeal
The James Gang is still Joe Walsh's only worthwhile musical project
Green Day is to punk what Pat Boone was to 50s rock and roll
Middle period Fleetwood Mac (post-Green, pre-Buckingham Nicks) is the band's most interesting era
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