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Old 09-22-2016, 03:56 PM   #12911 (permalink)
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Yes, dumbass. Who gives a ****? Carry your artistic integrity bull****.
I have artistic integrity! Suck on that, Chula.

Too bad we can't have a conversation about the nature of nostalgia (I only really brought it up because you said that you were in your 20s at the time that a lot of that tripe came out).
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:57 PM   #12912 (permalink)
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Do you think that nostalgia is something that we're conscious of?
Yes, of course. It's a unique emotion/mood for that matter.
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:58 PM   #12913 (permalink)
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Real convo question though, for those with broken snarkometers.
Sometimes, I do think we can be very aware of our nostalgic relationship with a thing and whether that is all it boils down to. My best example is sadly not music related, but when people suggest I just like Doom 2 so much better than modern shooters because of nostalgia, I call bs. I've played it every year since 1996-ish. It can't just be nostalgia. If it was, i'd be bored by now.

You can't play nostalgia, and you can't listen to it. If you actually spend time with music instead of reminiscing about it, then it can't just be a nostalgic attachment. You can be aware that you really like something for a variety of clear reasons, while also being aware that you have a personal attachment it.
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:59 PM   #12914 (permalink)
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The real question, in my opinion, is whether we can somehow assess things that arouse nostalgia in us aside from those nostalgic feelings. I certainly can not.
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Old 09-22-2016, 04:00 PM   #12915 (permalink)
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The real question, in my opinion, is whether we can somehow assess things that arouse nostalgia in us aside from those nostalgic feelings. I certainly can not.
I guess I just made an argument for the opposite.
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Old 09-22-2016, 04:04 PM   #12916 (permalink)
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The real question, in my opinion, is whether we can somehow assess things that arouse nostalgia in us aside from those nostalgic feelings. I certainly can not.
Isn't that what nostalgia is?
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I guess I just made an argument for the opposite.
I wouldn't say that no one can separate nostalgic from non-nostalgic assessments. It's just that I can't do it.
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Isn't that what nostalgia is?
I'm confused re what you're asking.
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Old 09-22-2016, 04:10 PM   #12919 (permalink)
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I'm confused re what you're asking.
Nevermind. I read the question wrong.
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For me, there are some albums like Mr. Bungle's s/t, Led Zeppelin I, Alice in Chains' Dirt, and a few others that have been with me my whole life and not a single note sounds out of place. I don't think that I can approach them from a looking in view and find anything to change my opinion. There are other albums that I made into a canon that they're great without listening to them for years (Slaughter is a good example of this, I revisited Stick It To Ya and met a totally different album than I've been picturing in my head all these years). Then there are albums where I'm well aware that I like it out of nostalgia, and I don't care (10 Years' second album, 311, Blood Sugar Sex Magick).
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