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**Exo** · 08-31-2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

Well you also have to keep in mind that while I do agree with him, he's also only describing a few albums, not the band entirely. The way I see it is with the description he's giving, he describes QOTSA as Rock/Metal or whatever variant you want whether it's stoner rock or w/e. Either way, I don't think he's trying to describe the band as metal as a whole, which I think is where some of the confusion is coming from.

I know. It may have been confusing the way I was saying it but I was talking about the first three albums in my statements.

Key · 08-31-2016, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

The line between rock and metal is so fine, but it varies from person to person.

Basically. Then when you bring subgenres into it, it just creates hell.

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Originally Posted by Exo

I know. It may have been confusing the way I was saying it but I was talking about the first three albums in my statements.

Well i'm inclined to agree with you as well since I'm not as big of a fan of QOTSA as you and Blank are, but both sides bring up both points. In the end, its really just an opinion, which is the point of this thread, I suppose.

The Batlord · 08-31-2016, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

I'd need to listen to those first three albums again with the question in mind to give my verdict, but re the way I use the terms, what makes the difference between hard rock and metal is that metal has significant prog influences re song structures, including more unusual harmonic and rhythmic content, whereas hard rock tends to stick closer to traditional pop song structures.

You clearly need to listen to more black metal, doom metal, stoner metal, sludge metal, and early death metal.

Blank. · 08-31-2016, 11:35 AM

Ki, is right. I'm not calling them a metal band. I think everything after those first three albums is rock. One thing though people keep saying is that I only think that because of the heavily distorted guitars. But listen to the drum work, it's loud and heavy hitting. Listen to the bass and how it goes into the sound. It creates, what in my opinion is a pretty metal sound.

Ninetales · 08-31-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

This QOTSA argument is sort of silly if you don't take into consideration that some people have a different ear for different genres. One person can consider something metal when another person considers it hard rock. I know there are definitive characteristics when it comes to genres, but it can still be up for interpretation in regards to what we've been told to understand about genres.

Sure, to a point. I wouldn't call QOTSA metal, but they toe the line, so I'm not going to get uppity if someone else does. Every artist doesn't toe every line though.

Justthefacts · 08-31-2016, 11:46 AM

QOTSA - Hard rock, stoner rock, hip shaking boogie woogy make you stand up and dance rock. Not metal/

Terrapin_Station · 08-31-2016, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

Even if it's not black/white, saying Boston is death metal is incorrect.

What would make it incorrect?

Terrapin_Station · 08-31-2016, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

You clearly need to listen to more black metal, doom metal, stoner metal, sludge metal, and early death metal.

What would that do in your opinion?

Blank. · 08-31-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

What would that do in your opinion?

They don't have song structure out of prog. They are nothing like it.

The Batlord · 08-31-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

What would make it incorrect?

Common sense.

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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station

What would that do in your opinion?

Show you that not all metal has much if any prog influence.

Black Metal

Doom Metal

Stoner Metal

Sludge Metal

Early Death Metal

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Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,033	Ki, is right. I'm not calling them a metal band. I think everything after those first three albums is rock. One thing though people keep saying is that I only think that because of the heavily distorted guitars. But listen to the drum work, it's loud and heavy hitting. Listen to the bass and how it goes into the sound. It creates, what in my opinion is a pretty metal sound.